Their awesome annual bowl game they get a special expemtion to play in even at 5-7 and probably never have to worry about missing will make up for the crappy schedule and Ferentz sticking around seemingly a decade or two after his peak. Very few bad bowl games in that league. Don't recruit well enough to be relevant nationally anytime soon though.
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So to clarify was iowa state the better team when they didn't need a miracle blocked field goal etc to beat iowa at iowa?
Rubbing my hands together. You funny hawk fans. Good stuff.
Rubbing my hands together. You funny hawk fans. Good stuff.
Cymentor....do you really think you are fooling people. We know you are a hawk fan....clueless.
Actually sports people base who is better on the field.
Our junior high team was undefeated. Guess they are better than iowa. They actually might be. LOL
All about win/loss don't you know. Too funny hawk fan.
Actually sports people base who is better on the field.
Our junior high team was undefeated. Guess they are better than iowa. They actually might be. LOL
All about win/loss don't you know. Too funny hawk fan.
According to Sagarin:
Ohio St. (#1) vs. TCU (#2)
MSU (#6) vs. Baylor (#7)
Wisconsin (#20) vs. KSU (#17)
Nebraska (#29) vs. OU (#28)
Minnesota (#38) vs. WVU (#33)
Penn St. (#46) vs. Texas (#53)
Iowa (#47) vs. Okie St. (#54)
Maryland (#50) vs. Texas Tech (#79)
Michigan (#60) vs. Iowa St. (#105)
Rutgers (#62) vs. Kansas (#115)
Northwestern (#66)
Illinois (#83)
Indiana (#89)
Purdue (#99)
Aside from the Big 12's #3, #4, and #5 teams being a little better than the B1G's, every other ranking through your 10 team conference favors the counterpart in the B1G. This, after an earlier post by someone saying that it was the middle and bottom part of the Big 12 that supposedly set it apart. Doesn't look that way. I don't know how you could look at these rankings objectively and think that, at the top, as well as top to bottom, the Big 12 was the better conference last year.
And we haven't even talked about bowl games, which in the past has been a popular narrative when describing how horrible the B1G is. Last year the B1G was 6-5 and won the national title, while the Big 12 went 2-5 with four of its top five teams losing.
So let's just quit the Big 12, play in the MAC. We will never have to hear the sorry excuse of strength of schedule a billion times a year!!!
Any ISU fan on here talking smack about our football program is completely clueless.
Granted, Iowa was not very good last year, but ISU was WAY worse, and it's not even close. Due to horrible coaching IMO, ISU was able to beat Iowa somehow last season when they had no business doing so.
ISU is, and has been as of late, probably the worst P5 conference football program in the country. It's been embarrassing folks. And ISU fans on here trying to somehow sugarcoat it as anything other than that, look foolish.
I will grant this one thing though... Iowa's schedule last year was completely pathetic. With that being said, we would have won less games than Iowa did if we played their schedule, I fully believe that. We were awful.
I remember back in the day when ISU was in the Big 12 North, and my Hawkeye friends would give me crap when ISU made a bowl game because they would always say it was only because we didn't play teams like OU, Texas, etc those years.
Well now, it's the reverse situation going on. Iowa is in a really weak division of the B1G, and is not having to play the best teams in the league in Ohio State, Michigan St, etc. The ONLY reason Iowa was able to make a bowl game last year was because of their pathetically easy schedule. It was bad.
But don't kid yourself, we wouldn't have done much better even with Iowa's schedule IMO. That is how bad ISU was.
It's kind of like in basketball.... anyone with two good eyes and any intelligence at all knows that ISU was a much better basketball team than Iowa was this year, even though Iowa went further in the NCAA Tourney. ISU destroyed Iowa when they played them, and probably would have again if they played in the tourney IMO. They were just a MUCH better team any way you looked at it.
But there are some idiotic Hawk fans that actually think Iowa was a better team because they beat Davidson in the tourney. Big deal.
And there are idiotic ISU fans that believe ISU was a better football team than Iowa last year because we won head to head. But anyone with a brain knows that was a fluke and Iowa had the better team. They still weren't good, but they were better than us I'm afraid.
This year, who knows? We shall see.
Granted, Iowa was not very good last year, but ISU was WAY worse, and it's not even close. Due to horrible coaching IMO, ISU was able to beat Iowa somehow last season when they had no business doing so.
ISU is, and has been as of late, probably the worst P5 conference football program in the country. It's been embarrassing folks. And ISU fans on here trying to somehow sugarcoat it as anything other than that, look foolish.
I will grant this one thing though... Iowa's schedule last year was completely pathetic. With that being said, we would have won less games than Iowa did if we played their schedule, I fully believe that. We were awful.
I remember back in the day when ISU was in the Big 12 North, and my Hawkeye friends would give me crap when ISU made a bowl game because they would always say it was only because we didn't play teams like OU, Texas, etc those years.
Well now, it's the reverse situation going on. Iowa is in a really weak division of the B1G, and is not having to play the best teams in the league in Ohio State, Michigan St, etc. The ONLY reason Iowa was able to make a bowl game last year was because of their pathetically easy schedule. It was bad.
But don't kid yourself, we wouldn't have done much better even with Iowa's schedule IMO. That is how bad ISU was.
It's kind of like in basketball.... anyone with two good eyes and any intelligence at all knows that ISU was a much better basketball team than Iowa was this year, even though Iowa went further in the NCAA Tourney. ISU destroyed Iowa when they played them, and probably would have again if they played in the tourney IMO. They were just a MUCH better team any way you looked at it.
But there are some idiotic Hawk fans that actually think Iowa was a better team because they beat Davidson in the tourney. Big deal.
And there are idiotic ISU fans that believe ISU was a better football team than Iowa last year because we won head to head. But anyone with a brain knows that was a fluke and Iowa had the better team. They still weren't good, but they were better than us I'm afraid.
This year, who knows? We shall see.
I'm pretty sure any one with two eye balls watched the ISU basketball team dismantle iowa in basketball at iowa.
Iowa beating bad teams after that doesn't impress anyone but hawk fans. Wait...this sounds very similar to...to ..to
oh yes. Football! LoL
Iowa beating bad teams after that doesn't impress anyone but hawk fans. Wait...this sounds very similar to...to ..to
oh yes. Football! LoL
A couple of key points...first, we usually beat KU, though this past year our season was in the tank and we mailed it in. Second, as you know, earlier in the year we beat our other KU level team...in THEIR house....that would be, of course, YOUR Iowa Hawkeyes. Finally, beating Big 12 teams on the road is never easy...that's more of a Big Ten thing.
As for the 1AA teams...well, NDSU was MUCH better than Iowa. On a neutral field, obviously, UNI was a better team than Iowa as well....nearly beat 'em in Iowa City :twitcy:
Who needs excuses, what's stated is simply the reality of our annual schedule. Unlike closet...and open...Hawkeye fans, I see us overcoming even THAT obstacle and achieving success. Feel free to give up though, and go watch games at the UNI dome and in Iowa City. You won't be missed...and take clonedude with you before he pulls a Hudsucker Proxy CEO move.
Everything you said in bold is dead wrong. You seem like a new/young Iowa State fan. I don't think you are a troll, I just feel you are misinformed with this post. If you want hardcore analysis or rumors about our program, your best bet is to ask me. If I happen not to be around on the board Cy$, demoncore1031, ISU42, or peteypie can also give you objective opinions about our program. Don't be shy, I was a young fan at one time too. Once you start conversing with any of the people I just listed or myself, I look forward to having football conversations with you in the future.
This goes out to any other Cyclone fan wanting to know more about our program. I'd be glad to give you historical/present analysis on the team. I'm sure the other four I mentioned above would be glad to help you out too.
Go Cyclones!
Probably not...but it sure has brought all the undercover Hawkeyes out into the open.
Its well worth it for that purpose alone.
This thread is painful. Our season last year was a disaster. Iowa's season, for Iowa fans, was a big disappointment. I don't hear it much, but I think losing to us in Iowa City was THE essential part.
That said - scoreboard. In my sports-universe code, Iowa fans can't talk if they lose head to head. However, any tough talk on our part, after 2-10, just seems silly.
That said - scoreboard. In my sports-universe code, Iowa fans can't talk if they lose head to head. However, any tough talk on our part, after 2-10, just seems silly.
