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ISU's safety's are better but their CB's are not a weakness by any means. Iowa's CB's are better but their safety's are not a weakness either

I completely, 100% agree with this. I think our secondaries are a wash. I like our corners, I like your safeties.
 
Haha whys that? Because its true?

because I've watched both units play multiple games. I'm going out on a limb and assuming you've only watched ISU play Iowa this year? Not surprising coming from a guy who doesn't realize that Iowa's success running the ball in the second half of the game was because ISU's only true NG was out.
 
because I've watched both units play multiple games. I'm going out on a limb and assuming you've only watched ISU play Iowa this year? Not surprising coming from a guy who doesn't realize that Iowa's success running the ball in the second half of the game was because ISU's only true NG was out.

So ignore statistics and just go off of what youve seen? I watched your UNI game (almost all of it), and what I could catch from the Toledo game. I dont know how you can say Iowa States RBs are better than Iowas. You guys arent terrible or anything, but Iowa is clearly better at that position. To me, if something is statistically better in every measurable category, then that means they are better.

Also, Tucker going out was big, dont get me wrong. But one guy on the defense isnt the difference between zero running game, and getting gashed.
 
you really think special teams are that different? Must be basing that off FG kickers? ISU has a better punter and punt returner, Iowa has a better kicker and probably kick returner.

ISU's secondary with a healthy Floyd matches up just fine with Iowa's.

And you're basing punt returners off of performances against UNI and Toledo?
 
So ignore statistics and just go off of what youve seen? I watched your UNI game (almost all of it), and what I could catch from the Toledo game. I dont know how you can say Iowa States RBs are better than Iowas. You guys arent terrible or anything, but Iowa is clearly better at that position. To me, if something is statistically better in every measurable category, then that means they are better.

Also, Tucker going out was big, dont get me wrong. But one guy on the defense isnt the difference between zero running game, and getting gashed.

Neither team has that great of RB's in my opinion.
 
you really think special teams are that different? Must be basing that off FG kickers? ISU has a better punter and punt returner, Iowa has a better kicker and probably kick returner.

ISU's secondary with a healthy Floyd matches up just fine with Iowa's.

Iowa has the much better KR/PR in King and it's not even close.
 
I don't think Iowa's RB's are that good. Weisman put up huge numbers but I don't think he was a great RB either

He had one year. That was it. His SR yr, he was awful. Canzeri and Daniels are good running backs. Anyone with any sort of an objective eye would say that. Are they Chubb/Fournette level? Absolutely not, but they are good. And just because Iowa State's "arent that great either", still doesnt put us in the same category.

If you honestly think the RB position at Iowa and ISU is a wash, then I dont know what to tell you.
 
This thread has degenerated into 'If ISU had the exact same football players as Iowa, it would have been a different game'

This thread is also awful

This thread typifies what internet-based discussions are all about: off topic hyperbole, apples-to-oranges comparisons, and name calling. It's great. Best thread of the season.
 
Wow the Hawk trolls are in full force today. Iowa beats 4 average to bad teams and the fans think they are unbeatable. Typical Iowa fans. It will be funny when Iowa gets their annual kick to the nuts when they lose to the Minnesotas or Northwesterns of the world.
 
Wow the Hawk trolls are in full force today. Iowa beats 4 average to bad teams and the fans think they are unbeatable. Typical Iowa fans. It will be funny when Iowa gets their annual kick to the nuts when they lose to the Minnesotas or Northwesterns of the world.

Great insight. Good luck in the only game you'll be a favorite in all year.
 
Great insight. Good luck in the only game you'll be a favorite in all year.
Thanks. I look forward to you disappearing from this site once Iowa has it's crushing defeat by the hands of powerhouse Minnesota. You should take clairbeardan with you too. Khawk is ok for now.
 
You were the one that said ISU lost in round 1 and Iowa won in round 1 this year. Now they won and lost in round 2? You sound like a politician

HEY! Football threads have to stay on football and basketball threads on basketball!

Don't you know the rules?
 
Wow the Hawk trolls are in full force today. Iowa beats 4 average to bad teams and the fans think they are unbeatable. Typical Iowa fans. It will be funny when Iowa gets their annual kick to the nuts when they lose to the Minnesotas or Northwesterns of the world.

As of right now, Iowa has been unbeatable :)
 

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