GRAYER RETURNING TO MICHIGAN

As Fred said at his opening presser, Grayer has been our best player period. Making the the Olympic team says it all.
Hoiberg was so full of praise for Grayer at that presser, maintaining that it was a must to keep him on staff {"IN SOME CAPACITY"}. This confuses me.

That is the statement I remember from the intoduction presser. Sucks that he won't be part of the program but we need the experience in Assistant Coaches.


Kinda saw this coming though:
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Isuaggie writes: Why do you think there is still a job posting for an Associate/Assistant Mens Basketball coach? Is Grayer still going to be an assistant or be on the staff “in some capacityâ€￾ as we’ve heard Coach Hoiberg say before?
CW: I don’t know any specifics about this, other than the fact that Grayer is listed as an assistant coach on cyclones.com and that he is in Ames. Could the staff be reshuffled at some point? Sure. Fred Hoiberg can do anything that he wants. It is his program. Really, that is all I can tell you. I know that Hoiberg is going to lean on Grayer to mentor Royce White. He mentioned that in a teleconference on Monday.
 
I'm really disappointed to see him go. He was at the Fan Fest Sunday and we had a chance to talk to him briefly and my daughter and I had our picture taken with him. Very personable and easy to talk to. Really a great guy. Most people did even know who he was or possibly even care unfortunately.

I doubt there are any bad feelings however, or he probably wouldn't have been there. I hope they can bring him back at some point when he gets some experience. I saw the guy play for three of his years and he was just a flat out stud. He may not be the best player to strap on a Cyclone uni for any particular season or two, but he had the best career and gave his all for the school.

Best of luck Jeff Grayer.



Jeff Grayer is one classy guy. He has always been committed to his hometown of Flint, MI, as well as Iowa State. I wish him well and hope he has a great opportunity ahead of him.
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As far as I remember, McKnight and Godfrey pretty much committed when they were here that weekend. So I think we all thought/knew that they were coming before the news broke about McDermott on Saturday night and Sunday. After McDermott left on Monday, they obviously didn't sign, but did after Hoiberg was hired. I count them as McDermott guys. I remember thinking that McDermott had had one of his best recruiting weekends when all the **** was hitting the fan.

And kg as far as the sly comments about TJ being the face of the program and the one that is really in charge, I think I speak for a few people when I say thanks for bringing this to light. Good to know that since TJ is the brains behind the program that it was clearly not his fault that things went bad the last several years. It doesn't make McDermott look any better when you say that he had practically the best assistant in the entire world working for him and things STILL didn't work out.

It does seem to me that you are trying to tell us that he isn't all that happy with his behind the scenes role, etc. It does no one any good to hint around at this crap. Just like it did no good to do the same type of thing with McDermott.

As far as Grayer goes, I am disappointed. It was crappy timing that no one could help that he was ever hired. But that was just bad luck. I don't like the timing of the whole thing and I wish he would have stayed for the year. I guess I could have kind of seen him getting an assistant job when TJ left (which if you read between some lines on here, he has one foot out the door anyway) or when Lutz left.


The recruits originally told McDermott thanks but no thanks as they did not want to jump onto a sinking ship on Friday night. McDermott then told the recruits Saturday morning before they headed to the airport that he was going to Creighton and Pollard was looking to hire Hoiberg. This is when the recruits verbally committed. At least that is what I heard..... :wink:
 
Speaking of truth, was ti the truth that this program was in good shape at the end of last year? No, it wasn't. I can't decide whether it was an ou and out lie, or if you actually believed that.

God, yaman. How could you be so stupid? The program WAS fine. Greg McDermott could do nothing wrong and it was all those stupid players faults.

Greg McDermott was the best thing to happen to ISU Basketball. Damn you Creighton for stealing him away!
 
Can we ever have a basketball thread that doesn't turn into a McDermott ***** fest?

Sorry, but this whole situation is GMac's fault for hiring two new asst coaches the day before he left for another job. That guy absolutely messed up Iowa State during and after his time there. Any Cyclone fan that isn't still mad about the whole situation around his time coaching and departure just doesn't understand everything that went on.

FH tried to find a way to make Grayer fit into the staff, but Jeff's lack of experience just didn't qualify him for an asst. position, especially under a head coach with no experience. I FH had even 5 years experience as a head coach Grayer would have been a fine coaching hire.
 
I'm a little confused by this. We only have 2 coaches hired... but we can have 3 assistant coaches.... and that is a reason we are not retaining him and he's going back to Michigan. ???????? That doesn't make sense....

Either way, it's unfortunate to lose a Cyclone legend from the staff...
 
Sorry, but this whole situation is GMac's fault for hiring two new asst coaches the day before he left for another job. That guy absolutely messed up Iowa State during and after his time there. Any Cyclone fan that isn't still mad about the whole situation around his time coaching and departure just doesn't understand everything that went on.

FH tried to find a way to make Grayer fit into the staff, but Jeff's lack of experience just didn't qualify him for an asst. position, especially under a head coach with no experience. I FH had even 5 years experience as a head coach Grayer would have been a fine coaching hire.

I think all but maybe 1 poster on this site knows that.
 
I'm a little confused by this. We only have 2 coaches hired... but we can have 3 assistant coaches.... and that is a reason we are not retaining him and he's going back to Michigan. ???????? That doesn't make sense....

Either way, it's unfortunate to lose a Cyclone legend from the staff...

Maybe the third assistant has been located/hired :cool:.
 
Sorry, but this whole situation is GMac's fault for hiring two new asst coaches the day before he left for another job. That guy absolutely messed up Iowa State during and after his time there. Any Cyclone fan that isn't still mad about the whole situation around his time coaching and departure just doesn't understand everything that went on.

FH tried to find a way to make Grayer fit into the staff, but Jeff's lack of experience just didn't qualify him for an asst. position, especially under a head coach with no experience. I FH had even 5 years experience as a head coach Grayer would have been a fine coaching hire.

That still doesn't explain why he has to be brought up in mostly every basketball thread. He's gone, why do you people want to continue to talk about an era of Iowa State basketball that just sucked?
 
Any Terry Carroll sightings? Seems a bit late to hire a currently working coach without screwing over somebody else. I would think there is somebody on their way in though.
 
Any Terry Carroll sightings? Seems a bit late to hire a currently working coach without screwing over somebody else. I would think there is somebody on their way in though.

TC would be awesome :yes: Agree though, it's late to leave your team in a lurch unless something has already been worked out a while back...
 

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