Gilstrap

Hey this might be a stupid question but is it true that we only get 1 year out of Gilstrap? If so, it almost is like a tease, because what if he does good for us, then we just let him go... IDK maybe I am just a tard, but I think its almost a waste of a scholarship since we dont get a whole lot out of him, we could have easily went after a high recruit who we could have develop....

I've said this before and so have many others and i'll say it again. This program needs players NOW, we're in no position to take 2-3 years to develop players, we just don't have the time. I'll take 1 year of a professional b-ball player caliber player, over 0 years.
 
ISU has a case. He was not in school 1 year and sat out a good portion of the year before that due to injury.


that's not a great case. unless he didn't attend school for religious reasons, or due to circumstances beyond his control, the ncaa isn't going to award an extra year.

if he just chose to take a year off, no chance.
 
Hey this might be a stupid question but is it true that we only get 1 year out of Gilstrap? If so, it almost is like a tease, because what if he does good for us, then we just let him go... IDK maybe I am just a tard, but I think its almost a waste of a scholarship since we dont get a whole lot out of him, we could have easily went after a high recruit who we could have develop....

Was Kevin Durant a waste of a scholarship? Certainly Gilstrap won't perform to that level but if he's good we want him for 1 year or even one month if possible. What's the alternative? We need to win next year.
 
Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.
 
Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.

Sorry this made me laugh...not even close to the truth.

Gilstrap was taken because we had a two year gap at the 3 spot and didn't have enough time to fill it this year....leaving a one year gap and he is good.
 
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Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.

You are failing to see this from another important perspective. Without Gilstrap, the team will only have one senior on the roster next year. We need to get the team's roster back in the cycle where we have 3 to 5 scholarships to give out each year instead of ranging from 7 to 2 as we've seen in in the past two years.

McDermott is helping to rebalance the classes while also bringing in a highly talented player that will help our team. Not much to complain about from my POV.
 
Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.

Trust me when I say this. I am not a Gmac Supporter right now. I just don't think he can get it done. However the Gillstrap move is not desperate. It makes sense because we need a 3 next year.
 
Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.

This post is lathered in predisposition. We need an athletic '3' now. If you don't like the method of obtaining one that's a you problem.
 
ISU has a case. He was not in school 1 year and sat out a good portion of the year before that due to injury. If he were to do that when he was a D1 player, he would likely get the extra year. Since there is a JUCO situation, I'm not sure how the NCAA looks at that.

Had he stayed in school and rehabbed, he would have no problem getting a sixth year. Since he dropped out, the NCAA will show no mercy.
 
Personally, I have no problem with us recruiting a guy that is so talented that he is a "one and done" guy and goes onto the NBA.

However, this kid has to be a one and done because his eligibility is running out...which is much different than just playing through one season in college to meet the new NBA draft rules. I certainly hope he is talented but I am not holding my breath...if he was really that talented, the NBA would be calling (or would have already called).

Clearly, this shows that GM is desperate...that maybe he finally is getting some sense of urgency. Frankly, I have no problem with seeing this kid come in as long he is able to be a significant factor immediately...which remains to be seen...the JUCO level is nowhere near what the Big 12 level of play is.

The question I have is for all of you GM apologists that are always yammering about how he is "doing it the right way" and building a "long term successful program"...is Gilstrap evidence to support your arguments? I think not.

Man, can you ever spin things to make McD look bad. How about just being realistic for once. We have one of the best JC players in the country coming to ISU to play a position we desparately need.....and, somehow, you see that as a bad thing. Hilarious. Get over yourself.

Gilstrap could come in and average 20 and 10 and you'll say "what a waste.....he only gave us a year".
 
Ok, well lets be realistic about this and not optimistic... He's NOT a Kevin Durant like some people say he is, I have a hard time believing that this kid is going to come in and average 20 and 10, Kevin Durant was a 5 star TOP RECRUIT.. Gilstrap is not.... He is just as ready for the Big 12 as most top high school recruits are.. So you can't tell me he is ready for the Big 12 and is going to average 20 and 10.. My point is, I would rather have to wait on a kid that has 4 years of eligibility, then waiting on Gilstrap to finally get used to the Big 12, and then the end of the season hits and we are none the wiser and Gilstrap is gone...
 
My point is, I would rather have to wait on a kid that has 4 years of eligibility, then waiting on Gilstrap to finally get used to the Big 12, and then the end of the season hits and we are none the wiser and Gilstrap is gone...

Why would you rather wait? If you're saying you'd rather recruit the Kevin Durant's of the world, of course you would. Everybody would. However because of the state our of program that isn't realistic and we need to get guys that need seasoning to develop.

If Brackins comes back next year that is our window to do something. We need Gilstrap to win NOW. I don't see why this is a difficult concept. We'll hopefully get Ejim in 2010 and then you'll have your 4 year guy.
 
You are failing to see this from another important perspective. Without Gilstrap, the team will only have one senior on the roster next year. We need to get the team's roster back in the cycle where we have 3 to 5 scholarships to give out each year instead of ranging from 7 to 2 as we've seen in in the past two years.

McDermott is helping to rebalance the classes while also bringing in a highly talented player that will help our team. Not much to complain about from my POV.

I'm not complaining at all...just wondering how all of those in the "doing it the right way" camp feel about this one year player.
 
This post is lathered in predisposition. We need an athletic '3' now. If you don't like the method of obtaining one that's a you problem.

I would argue we need a lot of things NOW. I am, and have always been, in the camp of living in the present instead of always positioning for the future (which never seems to come). I certainly hope this kid can compete in the Big 12.
 
I'm not complaining at all...just wondering how all of those in the "doing it the right way" camp feel about this one year player.

I don't see why bringing in a juco to fill an obvious hole isn't the right way.
 
I'm not complaining at all...just wondering how all of those in the "doing it the right way" camp feel about this one year player.

But this is doing it the right way. He is a stud at a position we need. Anyone who can't see that, well thats your own damn fault.
 
Man, can you ever spin things to make McD look bad. How about just being realistic for once. We have one of the best JC players in the country coming to ISU to play a position we desparately need.....and, somehow, you see that as a bad thing. Hilarious. Get over yourself.

Gilstrap could come in and average 20 and 10 and you'll say "what a waste.....he only gave us a year".

Agaiin...did I say that bringing in Gilstrap was a bad thing? I don't believe so. I just wonder how those in the "doing it the right way" camp can reconcile this "quick fix" approach being used by GM. I just hope he actually is a quick fix and not an over-hyped guy.
 

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