I think most of the posters here are too young to remember Hayden.
Fact. Hayden Fry will be a hall of fame coach. The jury is still out on Ferenz.
It proves my theory however. Most of the poster here just want to argue.
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I think most of the posters here are too young to remember Hayden.
Fact. Hayden Fry will be a hall of fame coach. The jury is still out on Ferenz.
It proves my theory however. Most of the poster here just want to argue.
Hell I'm only 23 so I wasn't really cognizant for most of his career, but ORF is a hall of famer and far and away the most successful coach Iowa has ever had
Forget for one second that I'm a fan of ISU and pretend I'm from Delaware. I'm familiar with the Big Ten conference but don't follow it religiously. I'm looking at a college football preview issue in an airport, see KF's ten-year conference winning percentage of .538, yawn and move on to the Big Sky Conference section. Six games over .500 is nice but not laudable... :wink:
Nice... You did forget Iowa City is the center of the universe and the world is flat after all...
Ferentz is not 43-37 in the Big-10 in my books.
He's 41-23. Hayden gets credit for the 2-14 start he had since they were his players and because he stopped recruiting after about 1994.
He's 41-23. Hayden gets credit for the 2-14 start he had since they were his players and because he stopped recruiting after about 1994.
Correction, 40-24. My Iowa public school education math is off. Ferentz was 3-13 in his 1st 2 years.
Just so we're clear... you consider this average:
Kirk Ferentz first 10 years at Iowa:
70-53 overall
43-37 Big Ten
3 Top 10 finishes
4 Top 20 finishes
2 Big Ten Championships
7 Bowl games
Okay, I know you're a little thick. Thus your need to repeat yourself. If you read my origional post, Kirk had a couple really good years. If you throw those out, yeah, he's been pretty average.
So...if you don't count the good seasons under Ferentz, he's actually pretty average.
I can do that too.
If you throw out KF's first 2 seasons, and the 2 seasons before the 08 season, he's a top 5 coach in the nation.
I can't stand guys like you. You say things like, "man, if they wouldn't have scored those first 7 TDs, we totally would have kicked their *****!"
Whether you like it or not, KF's entire body of work is very above average for the typical D1 coach.
Well I think the feeling is pretty mutual...
Can you please explain how exactly he is a top 5 coach using your logic?
For Ferentz being such an average coach, some of you seem to be awfully concerned about this extension.
Not at all. I think I spelled out pretty clearly it's Iowa's money to blow and I'm absolutely fine with it.
Why start the thread if we can't talk about it?
A few brains? Wow...I only have one brain in my head.
Tell me, do each of these brains in your head have their own distinct personality?
A few brains? Wow...I only have one brain in my head.
Tell me, do each of these brains in your head have their own distinct personality?
Multiple personalities...Depends on the time of day and who I'm talking to:wink:
DJK brings out the Ozzie Gullien personality while somebody like you has Lou Pinella coming out.
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I could just as easily say that you're missing that the year before Kirk took over, Iowa went 3-8, and that in Kirk's first 2 years, Iowa only won 4 games total.
ISU has won 9 games in the last 3 years, under just as many head coaches.
Well this isn't about ISU, however I know you guys like pulling them in.
Are you really saying Kirk Ferenz is a better coach and is doing a better job than what Hayden Fry accomplished?
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Especially when you consider that nobody here pays a single cent towards paying it.
It was a point of comparison; I thought that would be fairly obvious. But for the sake of making sure that everyone understands what I was saying...here goes.
Iowa was on a worse 3-year streak during Hayden's last year, and Kirk's first 2 years, than Iowa State is on going into this season. Get it.
Do I think Kirk is a better coach than Hayden? Right now, no, I don't - but not even you can argue that in his first 10 years here, Kirk's numbers stack up very favorably with Hayden's first 10.
Please spare me the whining about more bowl games and other such nonsense. All of those things are out of a coaches control.