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Coaches named in ISU release
- Thread starter Tornado man
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This. I think the biggest thing everybody is missing in this whole thing is the one person that suffered the harshest penalty from all of this is Peter Jok. I mean he had to settle for being a Hawkeye since ISU could no longer recruit him.
CycloneErik
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You might want to take an IQ test, because your reading comprehension skills aren't great. Several posters have already alluded to the fact that the report said we quit recruiting players where we contact violations.
1-reported by head coach of program which led to an exhaustive analysis.
2-said coach can say "mr and mrs parent, honesty and winning are a part of my program. We're winning. I don't allow cheating as evidenced by this report."
3-we are proactive and not hiding systemic cheating.
4-would prefer we didnt have this hiccup but small in scope.
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You are right the NCAA is sitting there waiting for this report just so they can screw over ISU. Time and time again the NCAA has slapped programs on the wrist that have commited similar crimes. Most fans understand there are rules broken at most schools. If all ISU is guilty is not logging phone calls and making 87 off the rules calls, then we should feel lucky.
If they are reporting ISU made thousands of improper phone calls they are not reporting the facts. There were 87 improper calls and 1400 some unlogged calls.
I think for these violations we shall be accursed, and banished from the land, and over-run by our enemies. We shall be smitten with any number of questionable calls and the subterranean powers will harden their hearts toward us and issue a mere statement, which says nothing using many bland words. These words will tickle our ears but not cause any meaningful change in our accursed status.
But do not fear, we will rise up from the dust, the ash heap, and mount up with wings like eagles. Smite our enemies, and overcome those subterranean powers which confound us, and we will end up in the promised land, just as Johnny Orr prophesied in ancient days!
But do not fear, we will rise up from the dust, the ash heap, and mount up with wings like eagles. Smite our enemies, and overcome those subterranean powers which confound us, and we will end up in the promised land, just as Johnny Orr prophesied in ancient days!
It is frustrating on twitter to see people talking about 1400 "impermissible" calls.
The call wasn't impermissible, the logging was! It is much different!
This article did it right: College: ISU
Written by @codywesterlund
CycloneErik
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I don't think it's any coincidence that ISU and SMU share 2 initials in common...................
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DistrictCyclone
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The local media is really stroking themselves over this. I wonder what they would do if there were "real" violations like grade manipulations.
If ISU gets hit with any punishment other then the probation then ISU definitely didn't get there money's worth. If we're going to get hit with scholarship reductions then we should have went full Blue Chips.
If ISU gets hit with any punishment other then the probation then ISU definitely didn't get there money's worth. If we're going to get hit with scholarship reductions then we should have went full Blue Chips.
So much fun to watch the DSM and CR media self-congratulate themselves for their crack journalism...
This report amounts to a lot of technicalities. Rules violations? Absolutely. Part of the sometimes very complex realm of compliance that most of us would fail the exam for? Affirmative. Want to read a report of ISU athletics in MAJOR violations? Go back to the football report from the Criner era. Until I read that report, I never knew how serious it was or how close we came to seeing whole AD in smoldering ashes. Think the "death penalty" was rough on tradition-rich, championship winning, wealthy SMU? Imagine what it would have done to tradition-less, poor ISU...
Unrelated: can I get your support to petition the FCC to make political phone calls that I am barraged with every four year to be classified as "impermissible"?
This report amounts to a lot of technicalities. Rules violations? Absolutely. Part of the sometimes very complex realm of compliance that most of us would fail the exam for? Affirmative. Want to read a report of ISU athletics in MAJOR violations? Go back to the football report from the Criner era. Until I read that report, I never knew how serious it was or how close we came to seeing whole AD in smoldering ashes. Think the "death penalty" was rough on tradition-rich, championship winning, wealthy SMU? Imagine what it would have done to tradition-less, poor ISU...
Unrelated: can I get your support to petition the FCC to make political phone calls that I am barraged with every four year to be classified as "impermissible"?
Now you see exactly what I mean. Do you think anyone in the media, especially in the state of Iowa, is going to report this factually? No.
As I said, all they are reporting is that Iowa State committed major NCAA infractions by making thousands of impermissible phone calls to potential recruits. That is what is being reported everywhere about ISU tonight.
And 99% of the people that hear this aren't going to bother even checking to see how accurate it is. We're just cheaters now in everyone's eyes. That's what I've been trying to say all night on here. It doesn't really matter, in the court of public opinion, what we did or didn't actually do. We committed numerous major NCAA violations. Period.
So if we beat Kansas next year in basketball... just be prepared to hear... "yeah, well that's because you cheat.".
That's all I'm saying here. I don't think what ISU did was bad at all. In fact, it's just some stupid NCAA rules that don't mean jack squat IMO. Problem is, my opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion that is already all over the internet, social media, and various news outlets that matters. And they are basically calling ISU cheaters because we committed major NCAA violations.