Chizik on hot seat?

This looks like a site written by someone with too much time on their hands. He needs to get a life.
 
it would be insane to put Chizik on the hot seat. Just stupid to even suggest really.
 
That's just plain DUMB.... no ISU coach will ever be on the hot seat in their second year.
 
As someone pointed out in the other thread, he's 25th on the list.

No more than the top 10 or so will be fired in any given year.

That means that Chiz would be nearing the top in the next 2-3 years if he keeps up the current not-so-awesome pace in terms of wins and losses.

I dont' think that's too insane. That would be 4 or 5 years.
 
If anyone "truely" thinks he is on the Hotseat after having some of the best athletes recruited at ISU in his 2nd year........all I have to say is:
Enjoy your Red Leather Jacket, Rebok pumps and Double-wide.
 
Here's why Chizik should not be on any sort of hot seat until after at least after his sixth year at ISU (disclaimer - I know you all have heard enough about KU in the past couple weeks, but here's one more post):

Mark Mangino's record - years 1-6
Year All Big 12
2002 2-10 0-8 / 6th North
2003 6-7 3-5 / t4th North
2004 4-7 2-6 / t5th North
2005 7-5 3-5 / 5th North
2006 6-6 3-5 / 4th North
2007 12-1 7-1 / t1st North

Here's where the similarities start:
- In his first, fourth, and fifth years at KU, Mangino played a South rotation of Texas, OU, and Texas Tech
- In years two, three, and six, he played OSU, aTm, and BU.
- Both were among the highest regarded assistants in the country and regarded as more than ready to start their own programs.

So if Chizik gets fired before year six, he never really gets a chance. It is obvious to ISU fans that the talent within the program is growing and the team is very young. The problem is, it may just be too soon to get to a bowl within this year or the next. Switching South schedules will make it just as hard to get to a bowl in years four and five. Mangino, if you can recall, was probably on the top 5 on that list you linked before last season.

Here's some reasons why Chizik might have it a little tougher than Mangino had it:
- It may be a tad harder to recruit to Ames than Lawrence (less successful in basketball, colder, more rural area)
- Mangino had the benefit of KSU, Nebraska, and CU all getting worse during his time. I'm not sure I see many North programs going down too far from their current position. Missou and KU may come down a little, but it's hard not to see CU and NU come back strong.
- I'm not sure there's another 5'9" QB out there who will be overlooked by nearly every team in the country just because of his height. Todd Reesing has just been a huge part of Mangino's success.

However, there's some advantages Chizik has now over what Mangino had when he started:
- KU's facilities were absolutely awful when Mangino took over. ISU's facilities aren't Texas's, but they're not bad.
- ISU's fan support starting year two of Chizik is better than KU's starting year two of Mangino.
- Chizik is likely more personable and has an easier time getting recruits to open up to him than MM.

All in all, it would be a huge mistake to not give a coach (who was generally regarded as being one of the top assistants and future head coaches in the country when he was hired) a chance to show what he can do when he has all of his players and against a less murdurous schedule. JP must wait until after year 6, unless things are seriously wrong, to even consider a coaching change.
 
To be perfectly honest, I thought he was until I came over here and learned more about your program, expectations, and the year you guys are having thus far. You guys are in the same boat as us where people just aren't informed about our respective programs. Can't blame them though. Neither of us is hardly ever in the spotlight. We've gotten some recently because of RG3, but other than that...just the opposing highlight reel lol.
 
The first thing that is ridiculous is how many people spell ridiculous rediculous. The second thing is how Gene Chizik even made the list and the third thing is that they have Tuberville ahead of Fulmer.
 
There's guys on that list that have only had their jobs for 10 months and we are only five weeks through the season....Mike Sherman at A&M.

You need to give the guy a chance before you put them on the hot seat!!
 
There's guys on that list that have only had their jobs for 10 months and we are only five weeks through the season....Mike Sherman at A&M.

You need to give the guy a chance before you put them on the hot seat!!

Considering the fan base and the school, though, a coach like Sherman may very well be on the hot seat right now. Same goes for Pelini.
 
I'm up for giving Chiz 4 years. If his 4th year is mediocre but promising OR BETTER - he gets #5. If it's good or better, he gets #5 & #6.

In year #5 if he's going to bowls, running a clean program, and lovin' Ames... I can see a very unique Fennelley-esque type contract. Why not? Have him solid in the program and have a 10-12 year commitment to it. Not a Ferentz contract, a contract with some unique stuff - like assistant pay way above normal and such, and giving Chizik Carver Hall for his kids to rollerblade in.

Before Mac - we tried the "new coach every 3-5 years" thing and it didn't work. I know we're Big Time Big 12 and all - but it'd great to have a senior FB Coach again - who aspires and achieves more than Mac and still sticks around.

We owe the guy 4+ years to make it in Ames, barring any unforeseen stuff. Hotseat = "off" until 2010 or later.
 
The first thing that is ridiculous is how many people spell ridiculous rediculous. The second thing is how Gene Chizik even made the list and the third thing is that they have Tuberville ahead of Fulmer.

I definately agree with your first point. :smile:

IMO the only way GC leaves our program is after back to back New Year's Day bowls, Mack Brown decides to retire.
 

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