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There's a difference between just throwing "ifs" out there and then logical "ifs". The things that have happened leading up to this make that question of "if the personal issue pops up again" very relevant.
When it comes to celebrities and sports, gossip is news. If you don't believe that you're very naive. Damn near every big story starts as gossip.

That still is a pretty big "if". We don't know "if" the personal issues will pop up again so do you want every aspect of their personal lives dissected in case something bad will happen or possible news story happens in the future? The newsworthy part of the story is over. He left, the university and the coach responded to it and said pretty much said "it's between him and his family now." End of news. Any further investigation is just gossip not news.

If you believe all gossip is news then you are very naive. Go spend time on Perez Hilton's website and tell me that all that is news. 90% of is just gossip.
 
Not news? Just gossip? The publisher of this site as well as many other media outlets felt that it was newsworthy enough to discuss. Do we need to know every menial detail of every public figure's life? No. But don't be so naive that you can honestly sit there and say that when the rumor mill starts flying, things don't become newsworthy events.

It's easy to sit here now and second guess people for starting these rumors about Dendy, knowing what we know now. But we all know that where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

If a kid is having personal issues, fine, we don't need to know about them, but if he's missing practices and potentially missing games, I'd say that's pretty newsworthy.

...But please tell me more about how that's an invasion of privacy.


Did the publisher of this site report the news first or did he report it to stop the RUMORS? I am guessing since the thread was up a long time before Chris addressed it, that he addressed it to squelch the rumors.

As far as smoke and fire. There was no fire near this smoke.
 
How's this

Prior to messages boards, when a person left for a couple of days for personal reasons, the only people that knew were the people that needed to know. Coaches, teammates, roommates, friends, teachers. It was not news unless the player missed a game. It still isn't news until they miss a game.

You do know that airplanes were invented long before scholarships were given out for basketball, don't you? Airplanes were invented long before the internet. Without planes, a guy living on the East coast probably doesn't end op at ISU.

You do know things that are now consdered "news" were never reported prior to the internet/camera phones/etc because people never knew. They didn't need to know. And it didn't affect the product ont he court.

How about that. not one "if" except the one in this sentence.

Standards in journalism have changed, which obviously you're not denying, but you seem to not be accepting. You may not like the way news is now reported, but guess what, there's nothing you or I or anyone else can do to change it. It's a beast that feeds on itself. I don't like the constant gossip and rumors that we hear nonstop on ESPN & CNN and every other media outlet in the world, but that's the way things are now, and that's due to the access we have to these events.

Whether we like it or not, rumors & gossip are news, and in this case, it's not unreasonable to want to know if these issues are behind Dendy (which I hope they are), or if this is going to be a reoccuring theme throughout the season. The fact that he didn't miss a game is obsolete, because the threat of this happening was clearly there.
 
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Did the publisher of this site report the news first or did he report it to stop the RUMORS? I am guessing since the thread was up a long time before Chris addressed it, that he addressed it to squelch the rumors.

As far as smoke and fire. There was no fire near this smoke.

He told everyone to stop the rumors until the facts surfaced, but he still acknowledged that there was an issue. Look, I agree with you about the whole "issues with the team crap", because that was just unsubstantiated and someone just throwing something out there.
 
People should never throw wild, unsubstantiated rumors out there, especially in circumstances where an individual has asked for privacy, but you also have to realize, regardless of whether this is a personal issue or not, it is a newsworthy event. Nobody knew last week if Dendy was going to be back, or how much time he would miss, or to what extent his personal issues were affecting or possibly jeopardizing his career as a Cyclone.

I'm not arguing about the event at all. It WAS a newsworthy event but it is no longer. He's back with the team and has said it was a personal issue that he dealt with and wants to keep between him and his family. It's over. No news, further inquiries into it is just trying to find Gossip on why he left to begin with.
 
Yeah, you got me. Strong logic.

You're the one that cried about "ifs" and brought the airplane into the converstaion. I was just showing you how idiotic your logic was.

Things are different these days. And as much as you want to say you deserve to know because it might affect the product you pay for, you are wrong. This stuff has been going on for years and has not affected the product. The only difference is we didn't know what was going on behind the doors.

Just because you pay for a ticket, doesn't mean you deserve to know anything. People were buying tickets and filling Hilton long before message boards/twitter/facebook were around to spread rumors.
 
You're the one that cried about "ifs" and brought the airplane into the converstaion. I was just showing you how idiotic your logic was.

Things are different these days. And as much as you want to say you deserve to know because it might affect the product you pay for, you are wrong. This stuff has been going on for years and has not affected the product. The only difference is we didn't know what was going on behind the doors.

Just because you pay for a ticket, doesn't mean you deserve to know anything. People were buying tickets and filling Hilton long before message boards/twitter/facebook were around to spread rumors.
I'm really glad you're not on my side of the argument.
 
Insisting that we are owed an explanation, is just rude and can be damaging. I don't care how you try and justify it with the decay of the media and society.

While we're splitting hairs, when did this happen? 99% of people interested in this cared only about 2 things - that he had left the team and when (if) he would return. I, and many, many people like me, don't care why he left or what he had to do while he was there. THAT is the personal business and I agree that it is not my business.

And I also agree that this is no longer news now that he is back. That is the news, we know it, case closed.

Also, people are forgetting HE is the one that put this out there on Facebook and Twitter. He knows fans read that and he knows fans will be interested in him leaving the team, even for a short while.
 
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I'm not arguing about the event at all. It WAS a newsworthy event but it is no longer. He's back with the team and has said it was a personal issue that he dealt with and wants to keep between him and his family. It's over. No news, further inquiries into it is just trying to find Gossip on why he left to begin with.

I completely agree with this. If he's said the issue has been dealt with, than bam, the door is shut and everybody should move on. My biggest thing, however, is that when the issue was still being handled, it's completely appropriate and acceptable to want to know if it was going to be reoccuring or not.
 
While we're splitting hairs, when did this happen? 99% of people interested in this cared only about 2 things - that he had left the team and when (if) he would return. I, and many, many people like me, don't care why he left or what he had to do while he was there. THAT is the personal business and I agree that it is not my business.

Also, people are forgetting HE is the one that put this out there on Facebook and Twitter. He knows fans read that and he knows fans will be interested in him leaving the team, even for a short while.

Exactly.
 
No it's not. It's called Gossip.


Why is it considered news if people want to know? Where is the news worthiness of someone flying home for personal reasons and then returning a day later?

You obviously have not been paying attention to the evolution of "news" and "journalism" over the last decade or so. I would say that a pretty large portion of what we are fed as "news" is actually nothing more than gossip.

Having said that, I don't care what this kid's personal issues are. I only care that he left the team and that he returned (which, frankly, I was pleasantly surprised by).
 
He told everyone to stop the rumors until the facts surfaced, but he still acknowledged that there was an issue. Look, I agree with you about the whole "issues with the team crap", because that was just unsubstantiated and someone just throwing something out there.

There is/was no "issue." The guy had to take care of his personal life. That isn't an issue. That is life as we know it. It didn't affect the team. It didn' affect anything except the people that got their panties in a bunch over nothing. People these days worry too much about other business
 
You obviously have not been paying attention to the evolution of "news" and "journalism" over the last decade or so. I would say that a pretty large portion of what we are fed as "news" is actually nothing more than gossip.

Having said that, I don't care what this kid's personal issues are. I only care that he left the team and that he returned (which, frankly, I was pleasantly surprised by).

Dude, you just agreed with me completely in a backhanded way that one can only expect from NUM1. Just because something is reported doesn't make it NEWS. And fans talking about it on a public forum doesn't necessarily make something NEWS.

It's a difference of opinion on what is news and what isn't news. I do not think Dendy's personal issues are news. When he left the team it was, but no longer it isn't. I've heard this debate hundreds of times on sports radio and other forums.
 
So when TMZ reports about the latest Brangelina break up, is that news? They make money on gossip, but that doesn't mean they don't ever break any news.
Well, yes. Because people have proven they want to hear the latest about Brangelina, it is news. (But that would never happen. Brangelina are Solid. Solid as a rock.)
From wikipedia:
Newsworthiness is defined as a subject having sufficient relevance to the public or a special audience to warrant press attention or coverage.
And IIRC, TMZ was the first to break the story about Brittany Murphy. That's a pretty big news story.

Granted, it's been 8 years since I graduated from the Greenlee School of Journalism at Iowa State, but I think all the professors would agree that news gathering and reporting is a constantly evolving field. With the advent of instantaneous communication, that has given prevalence to "news" being broken much quicker and in non-traditional fashion. That also means that "news" reaches a much larger audience than in years previous. It also means that anything anyone posts on a public forum (such as Twitter, Facebook or internet message boards) is fair game. If he didn't want that information out there at all, he should have refrained from posting it.

What are we arguing about again?
 
Well, yes. Because people have proven they want to hear the latest about Brangelina, it is news. (But that would never happen. Brangelina are Solid. Solid as a rock.)
From wikipedia: And IIRC, TMZ was the first to break the story about Brittany Murphy. That's a pretty big news story.

Granted, it's been 8 years since I graduated from the Greenlee School of Journalism at Iowa State, but I think all the professors would agree that news gathering and reporting is a constantly evolving field. With the advent of instantaneous communication, that has given prevalence to "news" being broken much quicker and in non-traditional fashion. That also means that "news" reaches a much larger audience than in years previous. It also means that anything anyone posts on a public forum (such as Twitter, Facebook or internet message boards) is fair game. If he didn't want that information out there at all, he should have refrained from posting it.

What are we arguing about again?

LOL.

I too have a journalism degree as well. It's crazy how many people on here do.

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I think the fact of the matter is, when does it become news and when does it not. I think when he was gone from the team it is news. But now that he is back, I think it's just gossip and no ones business except his own.

And for what he tweeted. It was really nothing, I posted it earlier in this thread. It was us, that started the ball rolling on the rumor after that tweet. I don't see it as him allowing or letting us into his personal life.

All right I'm done. This can be debated endlessly and no one is right.
 
There is/was no "issue." The guy had to take care of his personal life. That isn't an issue. That is life as we know it. It didn't affect the team. It didn' affect anything except the people that got their panties in a bunch over nothing. People these days worry too much about other business

Do you really want to get into the semantics of a word I used, "issues", to describe a personal matter? Would it have made you happy if I said "personal issues" instead.

Also, fwiw, Chris, just like everyone else in the news-breaking biz did acknowledge that there was an issue. Doesn't matter if it's small or large, an issue is an issue.
 
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