Why use just athletics to punish the kid? If this is a serious infraction for the school district, then suspend him from school. However, if it's not serious enough for him to miss calculus, then it's not serious enough to bench him either...
Boys State BB Tournament
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Very interesting point that I've never considered before. Is there a double standard in play?
Basketball is an extra, a luxury. Just because you don't suspend him doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to take away other things as punishment.
I would lecture... and if he was my 'teammate' I would kick his ***. That close to the tournament on a team that is supposed to contend, you have better things to do...
How are those "other things" determined? There are lots of ways to punish a kid. Again, if he's benched for the state tourney but not suspended from school, then it's just window dressing, that actually punishes his teammates as much as him.
I'm assuming here that basketball is something that he really enjoys. So if you think the crime isn't severe enough to suspend him from school, taking away something else that he enjoys is a logical step in the punishment food chain. What would you suggest, either he's suspended from school or nothing?
Nate's decision was not the best no. However there are a lot of questions left unanswered. Nobody knows if he tried to get the people with the alcohol to leave. He was also not drinking which means he does not have to sit out, this is according to state and school policy. He got cited for having a dissorderly house basically just because it was at his house, if it would have been anywhere else he would have been released with no charges or citation. He is not a bad kid one bad decision does hurt but I assume coach will let him play but not start him. I also think this could have been reported MUCH better. As others have said this happens at every high school and no it does not always get broken up and caught by the police but it happens everywhere, and if you think students and athletes from other schools were not there you would be very wrong.
Linn-Mar does play very good basketball and does have 3 D-1 players currently on the roster, Nate being one of them. This year they have struggled and do not always play clean ball. For some reason they take time off during the game and do not seem to play hard or seem scared at times for some reason. I think this is what will hurt them at the tourney, that and not getting this behind them.
Linn-Mar does play very good basketball and does have 3 D-1 players currently on the roster, Nate being one of them. This year they have struggled and do not always play clean ball. For some reason they take time off during the game and do not seem to play hard or seem scared at times for some reason. I think this is what will hurt them at the tourney, that and not getting this behind them.
I think they should do both if they're really pushing the "student athlete" idea.
The fact of the matter is that no high school kid ever gets punished for underage drinking if they're not involved in sports, arts, etc. I went to high school with a bunch of junkies who were always in trouble with the law and nothing ever happened to them at school. What are you going to hold them out of? They don't do anything besides show up to class! However, if you play ball and you get caught at a kegger (gasp!) you're sitting out.
I understand the argument that sports and other activities are a luxury and it's something they like. Who's to say the kid doesn't love calculus? What about the brainy kids who get caught drinking...do we hold them out of AP physics? Make them sit out of the science fair?
I'm tired of athletics/activities being the "low-hanging fruit" to punish someone. Yes, if the crime is serious enough, suspend him from everything (including school) or else find some other way to do it. I don't like this hierarchy of punishment where athletics is at the bottom. It's a cop-out.
If a kid gets in trouble, he should be just as concerned about missing a history test as missing a game.
So athletics should be higher than school? Righto. Athletics is an extra-curricular activity, emphasis on extra. As clone_12 said, it is a privilege.
I agree it was one stupid mistake. But having a party with underage drinking at your house makes it your problem, whether you're drinking or not.wxman1 said:
Exactly, Student athlete, student first athlete second.isunorth said:
Ummm ... actually that is exactly what they do. They hold them out of science fairs, band concerts, show choir, plays, whatever extra curricular activities they are involved in.
If kids don't want to miss sports activities - don't drink. That is the whole purpose behind the punishment and it is spelled out very clearly for them beforehand. The "junkies" usually have no extra curicular activities so they the school can't do anything to them.
This post is partially wrong, most schools (can't speak for linn mar) and state policy has certain rules about "guilty by association" which a student athlete most likely would have to sit if they are involved in incidents like this.
that should be the best game. huge rivals and im from johnston so they will win.
Just an update the Linn-Mar boys came out and played great tonight, granted Cedar Falls did not look that great but the Lions looked pretty good.