BLUM: Let's make a QB deal

Good read Blum, in the end it is 'W's'..... I know statistically Sam is good, but in the end does he use the pieces on offense in the right way to get the team wins? I think more than not no as you look at his record as starter. And that is the difference maker, he found a way to get half of those close games over the past few years I think this conversation would be different that he would be recognized as one of the best QB's in ISU history.... Stats are one thing but executing under adversity, is the bigger, some of this fault falls on the coaching staff but some is one Sam.... executing when it counts never seemed to be his strong suit.....
 
Good read Blum, in the end it is 'W's'..... I know statistically Sam is good, but in the end does he use the pieces on offense in the right way to get the team wins? I think more than not no as you look at his record as starter. And that is the difference maker, he found a way to get half of those close games over the past few years I think this conversation would be different that he would be recognized as one of the best QB's in ISU history.... Stats are one thing but executing under adversity, is the bigger, some of this fault falls on the coaching staff but some is one Sam.... executing when it counts never seemed to be his strong suit.....

This. Ws are the stat people will remember the most and Sam just doesn't have many of them despite the pieces around him.
 
Something needs to change. It is really just the wins that matter. Stats be damned.

With the recent short passing game, pass completions should be better.
 
Good read Blum, in the end it is 'W's'..... I know statistically Sam is good, but in the end does he use the pieces on offense in the right way to get the team wins? I think more than not no as you look at his record as starter. And that is the difference maker, he found a way to get half of those close games over the past few years I think this conversation would be different that he would be recognized as one of the best QB's in ISU history.... Stats are one thing but executing under adversity, is the bigger, some of this fault falls on the coaching staff but some is one Sam.... executing when it counts never seemed to be his strong suit.....
This is absolutely true, wins are the ultimate barometer. Thought it was an interesting comparison nonetheless and hopefully makes some think a little more. Appreciate you reading.
 
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Good read Blum, in the end it is 'W's'..... I know statistically Sam is good, but in the end does he use the pieces on offense in the right way to get the team wins? I think more than not no as you look at his record as starter. And that is the difference maker, he found a way to get half of those close games over the past few years I think this conversation would be different that he would be recognized as one of the best QB's in ISU history.... Stats are one thing but executing under adversity, is the bigger, some of this fault falls on the coaching staff but some is one Sam.... executing when it counts never seemed to be his strong suit.....

Examples? There are plenty of times Richardson has gotten us in position to win, but someone else screwed it up. West Virginia a few years ago, Texas two years ago, Texas last year, Toledo this year, KState last year off the top of my head. He also had a couple clutch drives to win at Iowa last year. Most of our close losses the last few years have been caused by the defense not being able to stop anybody when it counts.
 
We seem to have all the pieces on offense to be good, but just cannot put it all together. We need to finish more drives with scoring points, cannot leave anything on the field. The last three games, we had a total offense of 500 yards per a game, but the scoring would not reflect that kind of offense productivity. Putting the ball in the end zone is what they are struggling with now, how do you fix that, I do not know.
 
Two of those quarterbacks were NFL quarterbacks, one won't be. There is something about a quarterback, you have to have confidence and play with an edge, two of those quarterbacks had that, one of those doesn't. SR reminds me a lot of a Jay Cutler, while both are good people, neither have that leadership ability you need in a quarterback.
 
If Sam starts and is ineffective aka tx tech game...then put Lanning in and see what he can do because what Sam is doing is soooo b ad that we wont win another game....

Then we will have to FIRE poor old Paul Rhoads..................
 
This is absolutely true, wins are the ultimate barometer. Thought it was an interesting comparison nonetheless and hopefully makes some think a little more. Appreciate you reading.


It's definitely an interesting read. I would argue that Sam probably deals with a tougher schedule than either Seneca or Sage ever had as well seeing as how he has 9 big 12 games now and has to play all of the big 12 South every year.
 
Two of those quarterbacks were NFL quarterbacks, one won't be. There is something about a quarterback, you have to have confidence and play with an edge, two of those quarterbacks had that, one of those doesn't. SR reminds me a lot of a Jay Cutler, while both are good people, neither have that leadership ability you need in a quarterback.

Oh, goodness.
 
"It's not all Sam's fault" may be true, but if we are staring another 2-10 season in the face (or 4-8 at best), why continue with what we are doing? Throw Lanning and Rohach in there, get more experience, and get ready for next year.
 
This. Ws are the stat people will remember the most and Sam just doesn't have many of them despite the pieces around him.

Despite the pieces around him? Are you suggesting that the rest of the team is more talented than any Big 12 team other than Kansas the last few years? I'm not saying Richardson is great, but he's also not the reason for a lot of our losses.
 
We seem to have all the pieces on offense to be good, but just cannot put it all together. We need to finish more drives with scoring points, cannot leave anything on the field. The last three games, we had a total offense of 500 yards per a game, but the scoring would not reflect that kind of offense productivity. Putting the ball in the end zone is what they are struggling with now, how do you fix that, I do not know.

Coaching. If the team comes out unprepared. If they aren't putting what was taught in practice to results on the field, it's coaching.

Examples? There are plenty of times Richardson has gotten us in position to win, but someone else screwed it up. West Virginia a few years ago, Texas two years ago, Texas last year, Toledo this year, KState last year off the top of my head. He also had a couple clutch drives to win at Iowa last year. Most of our close losses the last few years have been caused by the defense not being able to stop anybody when it counts.

I wish more people would see this. As I've said in many threads, I'm as down on Sam as most. I'm not here to claim that Sam is just getting a bad rap. What I am saying is that our wins and losses go a lot further than the QB, yet everyone wants to focus on the QB being either the reason we lose or the savior to solve all of our problems. That's not the case here. It seems in every loss we have, some part of the ISU game fails. Last week it was the Defense. One of the worst performances I've seen out of an ISU defense to date, yet a lot of fans still wants to say Sam was the reason we lost.

Sam has been good at times, bad at others for sure. We finally get the running game going and it seems like other parts are just falling apart now. But this is more than a Sam issue. And I think that as soon as everyone can realize that, ISU will be a lot better off. Getting a 5 star QB on this team won't matter one bit if we have no kicking game, no defense and receivers that still drop the ball too often. There is a lot more going on than Just the Qb and i wish we could focus on that, instead of putting all the blame on Sam.
 
Despite the pieces around him? Are you suggesting that the rest of the team is more talented than any Big 12 team other than Kansas the last few years? I'm not saying Richardson is great, but he's also not the reason for a lot of our losses.
I'm suggesting that the talent level is there to be competitive and he hasn't been. I have said for a long time that I believe its a coaching and mental problem with him. His decision making is very questionable despite the fact that he has had some nice compliments on the field with him.
 
These comparisons and excuses are so tired. ISU didn't play early 2000s ISU last week, they played 2015 Texas Tech. I'm so thrilled that Sam has good numbers compared to previous ISU quarterbacks, but he doesn't compete against them week after week. Compare SR to the other QBs in the 2015 Big XII....that is who we are competing against. Don't use his aggregate numbers either, because 2015 SR isn't 2014 or 2013 SR. New year, new team, new Sam and sadly he has regressed so those numbers are a fair assessment of who he is today.

EDIT: For the record, I am not pinning all the blame on Sam either. The same goes for this team as a whole and the coaching. 2015 is 2015. We play against the Big XII not against ourselves. Want to see 2015 Big XII caliber coaching, 2015 Big XII caliber players, and 2015 Big XII caliber execution.....not, "Well its better than 1900 - 2014 caliber ISU" because WHO CARES.
 
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Despite the pieces around him? Are you suggesting that the rest of the team is more talented than any Big 12 team other than Kansas the last few years? I'm not saying Richardson is great, but he's also not the reason for a lot of our losses.
Honest question, how would Seneca do with this receiving core? His best receiver was Jack Whitver.
 
QB #1:

QB Rating: 79.9
Yards Per/g: 220
TD/INT ratio: 1.32 to 1



QB #2:

QB Rating: 85.2
Yards Per/g: 232
TD/INT ratio: 1.42 to 1


Elway = #1
Cutler = #2

Nobody would confuse the two. The QB position has changed more than any other position over the past 15 years. I don't think Drew Brees is an all time top 10 QB but his stats say he is top 5. Rules, style of play, etc make it really easy on the offenses these days.

Also, no offense to Lane and Jack, but I'm guessing Seneca wouldn't have minded throwing to some bigger WR's like we currently have. Would be some nice targets.
 

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