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Baylor 2009

Here is how I see it, if your a Baylor fan, I don't think you should be allowed to predict your team will be bowl eligible until after it has actually happened. Seriously, how long has it been for you guys?

To your credit, you beat us and you beat us good last season. However, something to point out, this year you have to travel up here for homecoming, we have a better coaching staff now, our QB (God willing) will be healthy, and we are returning everyone (I think we lost, maybe 4 starters). I don't think either team should be proclaiming easy victories for this game though.

Also, I would like to point out that, yes Baylor did play some better football last year than what they have done for awhile, but I remember everyone saying that in '05 and then look at '06. And I've heard the argument about the Big12 south, however, I bet ISU has beat more south teams than Baylor over the past ten years.
 
Al_4_State said:
lomashad said:
I was out fishing all morning for someone to make that comment. Landed the big one. Trust me, if you had to live in Waco, you'd want to murder somebody too...

CloneIce:"Baylor is awesome.... they even legalized dancing a few years back! What an awesome place. :jimlad:

One can't help but be impressed by a "religious university" that cheats in sports. "

You need about 5 more sarcasm pirates...
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And now we attack the socio-economic status of Waco/Baylor... No one will claim that Waco is a jewel of a city by any means. It is one of the poorest cities in Texas. At the same time, the upperclass of Waco are doing very well, and the middle class is squeezed. You do see much more of a class system with huge extremes here than in most US cities. Our stadium is located by some of the poorer areas, and we were called out for that after the ISU game last year, sorry that economy hasn't been strong in our city since most of it was wiped out by a tornado 50 years ago.

On the flip side, Baylor University is the only private school in the Big 12 and the average household income of most Baylor students is probably many times more than twice that of the average Big 12 state school.. I don't have statistics here, but if you spent much time around Baylor you would understand.

Because of the wealth of our students, there are a lot of fun social things unique to our school. Weekends at awesome ranches/lakehouses and roadtrips to various condos are fun. The average student lives in a house at college much nicer than most American adult's homes. The greek system thrives and anyone who doubts the Baylor party scene knows little about this. Additionally the bar scene is not bad, with several consistent options for a good time. We're also just over an hour from Austin and Dallas, although most students stick around Waco for the weekends.

Our more rural location allows for a lot of outdoor sports. Several of my buddies have ski boats here, and it's popular to go watersking and boarding in the afternoons when weather permits. There is also lots of hunting and fishing with less than a 20 minute drive.

Now onto the religious stuff that often drags our school down...it really is not that bad. Freshman have to go to chapel 2 times a week and all students take a class on the bible and a class on christian history. And these 2 classes tend to take a very liberal, borderline secular approach. Other than that the only noticeable religious things are visiting hours in some dorm rooms (no one livers here after freshman year) and a generally more conservative student body.

I love Baylor, and I have a lot more "typical college fun" than my friends at A&M and Tech do. As for UT, I don't think we're quite keeping up with them.
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You don't have to prove anything to ISU fans about Baylor. People are going to make fun of whatever they can about your school. It's funny, because the people who are making fun of Baylor probably get all offended when other schools make fun of Iowa State (which they do early and often).

End of the day, most university students have the times of their lives in college regardless of where they attend. It's all a matter of perspective, which is another way of saying bias.

I still wouldn't predict a 25 point win in Ames this year. With a new coaching staff and a lot of young talent, it would be tough to predict any game involving the Cyclones this year.
 
My bad on the dry heat.

The one time I was there, it was the middle of summer, and there must have been a drought. It was super hot and dry. I was on tour for Drum Corps and it was so nasty, they had us stay indoors for a few hours in the afternoon so noone would pass out.
Must not be like that every summer. My appologies to the Texas folks here.
 
Baylor2011 said:
Al_4_State said:
And now we attack the socio-economic status of Waco/Baylor... No one will claim that Waco is a jewel of a city by any means. It is one of the poorest cities in Texas. At the same time, the upperclass of Waco are doing very well, and the middle class is squeezed. You do see much more of a class system with huge extremes here than in most US cities. Our stadium is located by some of the poorer areas, and we were called out for that after the ISU game last year, sorry that economy hasn't been strong in our city since most of it was wiped out by a tornado 50 years ago.

On the flip side, Baylor University is the only private school in the Big 12 and the average household income of most Baylor students is probably many times more than twice that of the average Big 12 state school.. I don't have statistics here, but if you spent much time around Baylor you would understand.

Because of the wealth of our students, there are a lot of fun social things unique to our school. Weekends at awesome ranches/lakehouses and roadtrips to various condos are fun. The average student lives in a house at college much nicer than most American adult's homes. The greek system thrives and anyone who doubts the Baylor party scene knows little about this. Additionally the bar scene is not bad, with several consistent options for a good time. We're also just over an hour from Austin and Dallas, although most students stick around Waco for the weekends.

Our more rural location allows for a lot of outdoor sports. Several of my buddies have ski boats here, and it's popular to go watersking and boarding in the afternoons when weather permits. There is also lots of hunting and fishing with less than a 20 minute drive.

Now onto the religious stuff that often drags our school down...it really is not that bad. Freshman have to go to chapel 2 times a week and all students take a class on the bible and a class on christian history. And these 2 classes tend to take a very liberal, borderline secular approach. Other than that the only noticeable religious things are visiting hours in some dorm rooms (no one livers here after freshman year) and a generally more conservative student body.

I love Baylor, and I have a lot more "typical college fun" than my friends at A&M and Tech do. As for UT, I don't think we're quite keeping up with them.
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Are Baylor students allowed to go to movie theaters? Honest question. I know the baptist college up hear doesn't allow that.
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Baylor2011 said:
So I know this is for Cyclone football, but ever since we played yall last season, I've kept up with your message boards. I probably enjoy your forums more than anyone else's in the big 12 except for aggie's, but only because those idiots make fools of themselves on a daily basis and it's funny to read. I notice that many on here are pegging the 09 Baylor game as a likely win, while on baylorfans the game is seen as a lock for Baylor and an essential win if we are to make a bowl. I'd like to hear some perspectives on 09's Baylor @ ISU game, and also predictions on our 2009 record. Here's mine:

@ Wake Forest L 28-31
Connecticut W 41-28
Northerwestern State W 59-10
Kent State W 49-14
@ Oklahoma L 27-44
@ Iowa State W 45-20
Oklahoma State L 35-42
Nebraska W 34-20
@ Mizzou L 21-24
Texas L 17-21
@ Texas A&M W 52-28
Texas Tech W 35-32

Final Record: 7-5

Blast away at my overconfidence, but I really think this record is practical based on how much better we performed last year and how much we have comming back. Now I am looking forward to hearing some Cyclone opinions.
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hate to burst your bubble but I am going with Baylor having zero conference wins in 2009. sorry.
 
everyyard said:
hate to burst your bubble but I am going with Baylor having zero conference wins in 2009. sorry.
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I like how he assumes that since Baylor beat A&M and ISU last year, that they will do it this year. Problem is that both of us were at Baylor last year. So he has two conference road wins in a season for a school that I believe only has two conferecne road wins in their history.
 
To respond to the last few posters:
Yes we can go to theatres and watch rated R movies and drink beer and dance and go to clubs, ect. Baylor is not your stereotypical Baptist school by any means. But I do agree with the poster who indicated that most Baptists are a bit on the crazy side of things.

My assumptions about beating aggie and ISU are not just because we beat yall last year, it is because yall were the worst Big12 teams we played last year and looking at this year, I see our level of improvement as likely greater than either of yalls. With a new coach and the game in Ames, who knows what will happen. But I think we have a better coaching staff, 18 out of 22 starters returning, and we definitely out-recruited yall this year. I'm not at all offended by others disagreeing with my opinion, but I think my reasoning is logical.

There are some Baylor fans who think we'll only lose to OU, UT, and OSU next year, I think they're crazy. But the results I've predicted are very possible in my opinion. I really would be shocked to see us with under 5 wins, but I think we're capable of 7.
 
I partied at Baylor for a weekend when I was in college. The scene was about the same as any other school.
 
Baylor2011 said:
Al_4_State said:
And now we attack the socio-economic status of Waco/Baylor... No one will claim that Waco is a jewel of a city by any means. It is one of the poorest cities in Texas. At the same time, the upperclass of Waco are doing very well, and the middle class is squeezed. You do see much more of a class system with huge extremes here than in most US cities. Our stadium is located by some of the poorer areas, and we were called out for that after the ISU game last year, sorry that economy hasn't been strong in our city since most of it was wiped out by a tornado 50 years ago.

On the flip side, Baylor University is the only private school in the Big 12 and the average household income of most Baylor students is probably many times more than twice that of the average Big 12 state school.. I don't have statistics here, but if you spent much time around Baylor you would understand.

Because of the wealth of our students, there are a lot of fun social things unique to our school. Weekends at awesome ranches/lakehouses and roadtrips to various condos are fun. The average student lives in a house at college much nicer than most American adult's homes. The greek system thrives and anyone who doubts the Baylor party scene knows little about this. Additionally the bar scene is not bad, with several consistent options for a good time. We're also just over an hour from Austin and Dallas, although most students stick around Waco for the weekends.

Our more rural location allows for a lot of outdoor sports. Several of my buddies have ski boats here, and it's popular to go watersking and boarding in the afternoons when weather permits. There is also lots of hunting and fishing with less than a 20 minute drive.

Now onto the religious stuff that often drags our school down...it really is not that bad. Freshman have to go to chapel 2 times a week and all students take a class on the bible and a class on christian history. And these 2 classes tend to take a very liberal, borderline secular approach. Other than that the only noticeable religious things are visiting hours in some dorm rooms (no one livers here after freshman year) and a generally more conservative student body.

I love Baylor, and I have a lot more "typical college fun" than my friends at A&M and Tech do. As for UT, I don't think we're quite keeping up with them.
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These are all reasons why me and my friends hated Baylor. First off, your tailgate scene is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. No one cared, no one came, and the ones who did weren't friendly. Second, your fans were very chilly towards our general good intentions. You looked at us like aliens because we were dressed like we were going to a football game, not prom.

You aren't going to make points around here bragging about how you and your frat buddies were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Most of us come from middle class backgrounds, many from agricultural backgrounds were we've had to work our ***** off our entire lives. Most of us despise the old money elitist attitude which saturates the Baylor experience, and which your post accentuates.

If you want to earn points around here, keep making the generally level headed posts you've made in regards to sports, but you won't gain any level bragging about going out on the yacht with Biff and Muffin drinking champagne off of great-grandpa's trust fund, kappesh?
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Baylor2011 said:
And now we attack the socio-economic status of Waco/Baylor... No one will claim that Waco is a jewel of a city by any means. It is one of the poorest cities in Texas. At the same time, the upperclass of Waco are doing very well, and the middle class is squeezed. You do see much more of a class system with huge extremes here than in most US cities. Our stadium is located by some of the poorer areas, and we were called out for that after the ISU game last year, sorry that economy hasn't been strong in our city since most of it was wiped out by a tornado 50 years ago.

On the flip side, Baylor University is the only private school in the Big 12 and the average household income of most Baylor students is probably many times more than twice that of the average Big 12 state school.. I don't have statistics here, but if you spent much time around Baylor you would understand.

Because of the wealth of our students, there are a lot of fun social things unique to our school. Weekends at awesome ranches/lakehouses and roadtrips to various condos are fun. The average student lives in a house at college much nicer than most American adult's homes. The greek system thrives and anyone who doubts the Baylor party scene knows little about this. Additionally the bar scene is not bad, with several consistent options for a good time. We're also just over an hour from Austin and Dallas, although most students stick around Waco for the weekends.

Our more rural location allows for a lot of outdoor sports. Several of my buddies have ski boats here, and it's popular to go watersking and boarding in the afternoons when weather permits. There is also lots of hunting and fishing with less than a 20 minute drive.

Now onto the religious stuff that often drags our school down...it really is not that bad. Freshman have to go to chapel 2 times a week and all students take a class on the bible and a class on christian history. And these 2 classes tend to take a very liberal, borderline secular approach. Other than that the only noticeable religious things are visiting hours in some dorm rooms (no one livers here after freshman year) and a generally more conservative student body.

I love Baylor, and I have a lot more "typical college fun" than my friends at A&M and Tech do. As for UT, I don't think we're quite keeping up with them.
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I wish I had your friends, haha.

there's is a rich sect at baylor, but it is not much different than any other school. the 'average' student does not live in a nice house, not even close. the greek system is only about 20% of students.

I worked all the way through school, lived in some shiity places and made due. you're painting a horribly arrogant picture of the student body only furthering the unwarranted stereotypes towards Baylor.

I do wish the tailgating scene was better, problem is alcohol is banned on campus property which puts a damper on most tailgates. Most people would pre-game elsewhere besides the parking lot, sucking at football didn't help anything either. The policy has become more of a 'pour it in a cup and we don't care' attitude, which has led to a bit of a revival, but it will take a while to get anywhere near respectable.
 
We actually now have a real coaching staff that can make adjustments. Last year was rock bottom. Last year we were inept.
 
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