***2023 Ryder Cup***

Perhaps had something to do with why Bryson didn't get the call either as he has been playing fantastic golf lately.
Might be. His play style, as long as he’s employing the “bomb-and-gouge” tactic, is always going to be a problem for him though, in my opinion. Doesn’t work well in foursomes, as an example, so limits his impact.

Looking at Europe, I’m excited to see Ludvig Åberg play. Kid is an absolute stud.
 
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Might be. His play style, as long as he’s employing the “bomb-and-gouge” tactic, is always going to be a problem for him though, in my opinion. Doesn’t work well in foursomes, as an example, so limits his impact.

Looking at Europe, I’m excited to see Ludvig Åberg play. Kid is an absolute stud.
Yeah, if you were to build a "future tour star", it would look a lot like Aberg.
 
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To my eye it sure looks like Europe should be the favorite. Home soil and probably 3 out of the top 4 golfers there (Rahm, Hovland, Rory). I suppose it all comes down to quality depth and US probably has a little more quality in the middle. But I could totally see a kid like Aberg playing lights out too.
 
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To my eye it sure looks like Europe should be the favorite. Home soil and probably 3 out of the top 4 golfers there (Rahm, Hovland, Rory). I suppose it all comes down to quality depth and US probably has a little more quality in the middle. But I could totally see a kid like Aberg playing lights out too.
Agree with this. Europe has some hammers. I do always look at Rory as a wild card though. One of the best golfers on the planet, for sure, but pressure seems to mess with him a bit. Rahm and Viktor are still babies with this format also. Rahm was one of the few bright spots for Europe in 2021 though, and he has “bulldog” qualities.

I agree the US is deeper, it seems.
 
In his first two Cups, he was 6-0-1. It went south on him his third go around (2018)…about the same time he started becoming a distraction.

Guy won the Masters in 2018, and quickly turned into a massive douche that nobody wanted to be around.

I watched a little snippet about Seve Ballesteros last night. It is incredible the impact he had for his playing partners throughout his Ryder Cup career. We all know about his partnership with Jose Maria Olazabel (the “Spanish Armada”), but he partnered with other guys nobody had heard of before or since who led Team Europe in points a few times. The power of a positive, invested and respected playing partner cannot be overstated.
Reed was a douche long before 2018
 
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I like Europe here. I’d give us the edge but I think Zach Johnson royally screwed up the Captains picks.

Keegan Bradley and Cam Young should have been in this team rather than Thomas and Burns. I’ll eat my crow though if those two light it up
 
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Reed was a douche long before 2018
He was for sure, but it was actually after the 2018 Ryder Cup where it really started to unravel. The whole Spieth thing, ******** at Furyk and actually demeaning Tiger to his face. Then the rules infractions started piling up. The sand trap issues were in 2019. Had another rules thing a couple years later, then the Brandle Chamblee stuff.

By 2021, nobody wanted anything to do with him.

There was a lot of infighting with the US Team and it was Reed and Mickelson at the heart of it all.

Kind of like Jordan, Isiah Thomas and The Dream Team. “Sorry Isiah…you’re good, but everyone hates you and Michael won’t even play if you’re around, so enjoy the couch this summer.”
 
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Might be. His play style, as long as he’s employing the “bomb-and-gouge” tactic, is always going to be a problem for him though, in my opinion. Doesn’t work well in foursomes, as an example, so limits his impact.

Looking at Europe, I’m excited to see Ludvig Åberg play. Kid is an absolute stud.

It may not work well in foursomes but he's a cheat code in four ball. I would have taken him over Sam Burns, especially considering how Marco Simone sets up.
 
I like Europe here. I’d give us the edge but I think Zach Johnson royally screwed up the Captains picks.

Keegan Bradley and Cam Young should have been in this team rather than Thomas and Burns. I’ll eat my crow though if those two light it up
Keegan for sure but he wasn't part of the Fowler Thomas Speith club. Thomas and Speith do play well together however. Those latter three go on trips together.
 
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I’m rooting for the US obviously but I do like Rory a lot.

I'm rooting for the U.S., but won't be all that sad if Europe wins either. Rory has quickly become my favorite pro golfer currently (not of all time, that's Tiger).... and it also wouldn't crush me if Zach lost as captain.
 
Other than Cantlay/Schauffele, I did NOT see these pairings:

Day One: Friday Foursomes​



MATCHTEE TIMESEUROPEUSA
107:35Jon Rahm / Tyrrell HattonScottie Scheffler / Sam Burns
207:50Viktor Hovland / Ludvig ÅbergMax Homa / Brian Harman
308:05Shane Lowry / Sepp StrakaRickie Fowler / Collin Morikawa
408:20Rory McIlroy / Tommy FleetwoodXander Schauffele / Patrick Cantlay
 
Pairing odds per DK:

Rahm/Hatton +105 over Scheffler/Burns +110
Hovland/Aberg -110 over Homa/Harman +130
Fowler/Morikawa -115 over Lowry/Straka +140
Rory/Fleetwood +100 over Schauffele/Cantlay +120
 

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