***2023 PGA Tour Thread***
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You aren’t serious are you? You must not have been following this from the start. Hell even 45 called this over a year ago…
I've been solidly Team PGA, but if I'm a guy that turned down tens of millions out of loyalty, I'm wanting some serious, serious benefits out of this deal.
They get the self satisfaction of being pro PGA Tour the whole time!
The only difference between LIV and PGA as it pertains to money is that LIV was open about where their money came from. If you think the PGAs money was clean (such as not coming from people who have done heinous things), you are extremely naive.
The “two wrongs make a right” crowd having a field day today. What happened to us having any standards for whose money we might want to accept? This PGA/LIV thing is just another manifestation of the loss of any type of caring about whether something is right or wrong, and just being motivated by whether it’s personally profitable for me or not. It’s also a great day for the “I’m not a politician, I just play golf” crowd. We just sink lower and lower in terms of not taking any responsibility for how our actions might affect other people. Gotta look out for #1, right? A day where Greg Norman, Phil Mickelson, and the Saudi PIF fund have the last laugh is a terrible day.
I'm giving Monahan a little bit of the benefit of the doubt here. The only explanation that makes sense to me is the PGA's lawyers determining that between the LIV lawsuit and the DOJ investigation that they were in a poor legal position and they needed to do anything they could to avoid more digging. Otherwise I just can't understand the timing on this. It didn't seem to me the PGA was hurting or LIV was gaining momentum.
I don't have a dog in the fight but unless the PGA gets another competitor why would they give the loud and loyal a huge retention bonus?
Do I think it's deserved/proper? Sure
But where else can Rory now go?
Do I think it's deserved/proper? Sure
But where else can Rory now go?
you answered your own question in your post. If it were just Rory, the PGA wouldn't really need to worry. It's not just Rory, the vast majority of quality players were playing on the PGA tour. LIV wasn't successful because they could not get enough high level players to leave. If another entity could come along and get 20 of the top 30 players to come over that entity becomes very viable.
I don't think a new league will form because I think the PGA will be writing thank you checks to those players but the PGA doing nothing for those players certainly opens the door.
Another question since I'm a fringe golf guy. Suppose a tourney like the PGA Championship could move out of the US as part of this?
Here's what needs to happen.....
Tiger, Rory, Jack, Gary Player, etc get together with as many HUGE companies as they can, which is a LOT.... and start their own new golf league.
What would be a better legacy for these guys than to go down as the ones who saved the sport of golf from Saudi Arabia completely ruining it?
Tiger, Rory, Jack, Gary Player, etc get together with as many HUGE companies as they can, which is a LOT.... and start their own new golf league.
What would be a better legacy for these guys than to go down as the ones who saved the sport of golf from Saudi Arabia completely ruining it?
You seem to have completely missed my point. No one who has any substantial amount of money is on the “up and up”. Thinking the PGA Tour somehow was exempt from that is laughable. It may not be as direct as LIV was, but money at that level is never “clean”.
Agree with that. Look at Nike for instance. Probably is worn by 80% of golfers, but pays its workers in Taiwan or wherever pennies a day.
It’s organized by the PGA of America not the PGA Tour. Different entities so while I’d never say never, I’d highly doubt it unless a different organization starts to organize the tournament.