Time for a Real Discussion About Caitlin Clark

Don't know about that. Look at all the press they give Lucca Garza because he is still clinging to any type of NBA career. He's not even a native Iowan. Chan 13 will try to convince you that the WNBA is the biggest thing since women's college basketball. Or sliced bread.

The Wolves are sponsors to the radio/tv. They are pushing a product.
 
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She seems to still be getting a lot of media attention outside of local/Iowa outlets.
Getting national media attention is different than being in things. Blake Griffin is still in Subway commercials and he’s not even in the NBA anymore. I’ve said this before there is a huge difference in being popular and moving the needle in a small populated state in a niche sport vs. getting compared to Lebron, Tiger, and Michael ******* Jordan.
 
Getting national media attention is different than being in things. Blake Griffin is still in Subway commercials and he’s not even in the NBA anymore. I’ve said this before there is a huge difference in being popular and moving the needle in a small populated state in a niche sport vs. getting compared to Lebron, Tiger, and Michael ******* Jordan.

Exactly. You didn’t have to google who the person was when Michael Jordan was in a commercial. I assure you, there are people who either have no clue who that is or have to google who it is.
 
Whenever I catch a whiff of national sports talk/media it's still all about Ohtani, the Cowboys, Lebron/Lakers, NFL, College Football, Mahomes, etc. I really only hear about Clark if it's a game highlight or Des Moines sports talk.
Agreed.

Living outside of Iowa I think the only time I've seen anything about Clark since last year's Finals game was just the other day when the bar I was in had the WNBA draft lottery on a TV. And even then, she didn't seem to get much more run than other projected top picks.
 
Well now you're just being silly. Like I said, I get hating her if you're not an Iowa fan. But I'd hardly describe her as "yesterday's news".
Clark is a big deal in the state of Iowa for sure.

However, it was just as silly to compare her to Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan on the impact she has on women's college basketball.

I also find it funny that people like Murphy and Fales say the reason some of us don't like her -- even though she is a great athlete -- is jealousy when they turnaround and say they don't like Angel Reese or Kim Mulkey. They won a national title. One is a talented athlete and the other is a coach that is very successful. What is the difference there?
 
Clark is a big deal in the state of Iowa for sure.

However, it was just as silly to compare her to Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan on the impact she has on women's college basketball.

I also find it funny that people like Murphy and Fales say the reason some of us don't like her -- even though she is a great athlete -- is jealousy when they turnaround and say they don't like Angel Reese or Kim Mulkey. They won a national title. One is a talented athlete and the other is a coach that is very successful. What is the difference there?
I don't disagree there.
 
Not if you live in Iowa. But if you live anywhere else in the country, I promise, to the casual sports fan, she’s yesterdays news.
Right. Jason Sudekis and Sue Bird (this was everywhere) were sitting courtside at the Iowa game a couple weeks ago to see yesterday's news. Very few college athletes get the type of national exposure that she receives. Of course you can't compare her to professional superstar athletes. I live out of state and I know a lot of casual sports fans that do tune in to watch just because of her.
 
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Right. Jason Sudekis and Sue Bird (this was everywhere) were sitting courtside at the Iowa game a couple weeks ago to see yesterday's news. Very few college athletes get the type of national exposure that she receives. Of course you can't compare her to professional superstar athletes. I live out of state and I know a lot of casual sports fans that do tune in to watch just because of her.

Define a lot.

I will never deny she’s a great player, but at the end of the day 2 things are true, she’s not changing a sport, no matter what the media wants us to think and her “star power” outside of the state of Iowa is waning significantly.
 


I can respect the fact she may be the most talented women's basketball player we have seen. But this isn't the first time I watched her act like a complete a$$ on the court for whatever the reason. She is a poor winner and even worse loser. IMHO... Discuss...

it was one time, easy there. if you have ever played sports, there are moments of frustration. it happened once, no big deal. if it persists, then it’s a big deal
 
I feel bad for all of you that live in Iowa.... you must be getting CC fatigue in a big way by now. I'm guessing that is all the Iowa media talks about DAILY.

Up here in Minny, CC is never talked about..... its clearly just a state of Iowa deal. Nobody in the other 49 cares... at all. I'm sure Murph and Andy would be disappointed to hear this.
 
it was one time, easy there. if you have ever played sports, there are moments of frustration. it happened once, no big deal. if it persists, then it’s a big deal

I played sports through college. I’ve gotten frustrated, I have never done that. It’s fine to get frustrated, it’s not fine to blow someone up like that.

If you want to be a role model, which she has claimed she wants to be, she needs to be above reproach.
 
it was one time, easy there. if you have ever played sports, there are moments of frustration. it happened once, no big deal. if it persists, then it’s a big deal
I didn't see anything that blatant in Hilton, but she had more than just "moments" of "frustration". She complained about nearly every freaking call.
 
Right. Jason Sudekis and Sue Bird (this was everywhere) were sitting courtside at the Iowa game a couple weeks ago to see yesterday's news. Very few college athletes get the type of national exposure that she receives. Of course you can't compare her to professional superstar athletes. I live out of state and I know a lot of casual sports fans that do tune in to watch just because of her.

The only ones I know of are parents of girl basketball players from age 7-15. Or Iowa fans.
 
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I didn't see anything that blatant in Hilton, but she had more than just "moments" of "frustration". She complained about nearly every freaking call.
I do not understand why the refs put up with it. Usually, refs have huge egos and tolerate very little disrespect. CC was arguing/complaining constantly in that game. At one point, she was openly mocking them as she walked back to the huddle.

Maybe it's the approach of: flood them with so many complaints they can't constantly T you up for all of them? I'm guessing they know they don't want to toss her so they let 99% of it go.

That would not be my approach, if I were a ref. I'd warn both teams and coaches ahead of the game regarding disrespect toward officials. Then I'd give the player one warning during the game. After that, it's T City.
 
I do not understand why the refs put up with it. Usually, refs have huge egos and tolerate very little disrespect. CC was arguing/complaining constantly in that game. At one point, she was openly mocking them as she walked back to the huddle.

Maybe it's the approach of: flood them with so many complaints they can't constantly T you up for all of them? I'm guessing they know they don't want to toss her so they let 99% of it go.

That would not be my approach, if I were a ref. I'd warn both teams and coaches ahead of the game regarding disrespect toward officials. Then I'd give the player one warning during the game. After that, it's T City.
It's not much different than the preferential treatment the superstars receive in virtually every sports league.
 
It's not much different than the preferential treatment the superstars receive in virtually every sports league.

It’s a little different, CC acts worse than most men players.

But she has been enabled to a point.

The officials in women’s basketball are pretty bad, relatively speaking. In my opinion, they are not equipped to deal with someone with that kind of demeanor and it’s just been a snowball effect the last 4 years.
 

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