The only reason why all those B1G West teams are around .500 is because they get to play each other. Illinois got handled by Kansas, who is maybe the 5th or 6th best team in the Big 12, Wisconsin got handled by Washington St who is near the bottom of the PAC 12, Nebraska got destroyed by Colorado who is last in the PAC 12. Just a few examples. You have to give Iowa credit for winning all those close games, but the reality is they are a mediocre team who beat a lot of bad teams. That sums up most of the last 10 years of Iowa football.
F*CK IOWA
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The ones who don’t understand are the ones who are listening to Kirk as they have his balls in their mouths.
The reason Kirk is still ******** about the call is not so much about how the game was lost, but it was the deciding factor on Goetz firing Brian. Kirk's pissed his son was fired and that call made it happen. Kirk won't ***** in the media about Goetz, but he can still vent about the call as a way to let off some steam.
The funny thing is that if Iowa had won the Minnesota game a large percentage of their fanbase would seriously be arguing that they belong in the playoff conversation despite their awful schedule and pathetic offense. Kirk is just feeding that deluded narrative. There is just no self-awareness among KF, the Hawkeye media and the fanbase.
And Brian would not have been fired most likely.
So, every Hawkeye fan that says it was a BS call, is effectively saying they want BF as their OC.
Iowa fans who can't get past the correct call against Minny is comical. Move on idiots.
Most Iowa fans frustration is that the review was to see if he stepped out of bounds and then they called that after the fact. It’s like reviewing a TD pass and then seeing holding and calling it after the fact. The invalid fair catch signal was technically the correct call but that’s not the problem most people have with the call. You can’t review a scoring play for one specific thing and go looking for something else otherwise a whole bunch of TD’s would be getting called back.
At the end of the day Iowa is 10-2 and playing in the B1G Championship game despite a horrendous offense and terrible luck with injuries. I’m enjoying the moment and also fully expect to get blown out by OSU or UM.
Also, this is hysterical coming from an ISU fan. Seneca Wallace still gets brought up to this day. Try not being a hypocrite.
KidSilverhair
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That's just the way he runs!
The players playing the game and officials on the field did not think he signaled. Had no impact on the outcome of the play. Should have stood as called on the field.
End of the day it really doesn’t matter. They aren’t winning next week and they weren’t likely getting to a NY6 bowl even with that win.
Done for today, focusing in on who gets the right to play Iowa in B10 CCG.
KidSilverhair
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Actually they do look for stuff like that because they are supposed to as a part of their profession. The play was dead once the iowa player had possession. If any mistakes were made it was them not throwing a flag on iowa for jumping over the p-protector. Or blowing the play dead once the iowa player grabbed the ball. Or penalizing the classy Iowa fans for throwing cans and bottles at the Minnesota players.
That’s what Iowa fans don’t understand.. all components of the play are reviewed on scoring plays.
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Says who? The announcers speculated that, but the refs just said the previous play was under review
KidSilverhair
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* A cursing Kirk brings up a month-old (correct) call that went against Iowa
* We point fingers at Kirk and Iowa fans who still can’t get over having a DeJean TD overturned
* Same-said Iowa fans come back to this thread to prove that, yes, they’re still butt-hurt and still don’t understand the rules
* We point and laugh at them
* They ditch the thread, saying they’re “done for today” lol
I’ve said all this before, but I’ll say it again for the Hawkeye fans in the back:
1) the invalid fair catch signal rule clearly states ANY waving of the arms qualifies. It doesn’t have to be over the head; it doesn’t have to affect the coverage team; if the returner waves his arm, it’s AUTOMATICALLY an invalid fair catch signal.
2) that means the kick CANNOT be returned and the ball is dead at the point the returner catches it. The play should have been blown dead instantly; however, officials are increasingly taught that, if there’s anything questionable, they should let the play run and trust replay will catch it.
3) which is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. Maybe the officials on the field weren’t certain they saw DeJean wave his arm; maybe the Minnesota players didn’t see it either; maybe the overhead view was the only clear shot of his arm flailing around. THAT DOESN’T MATTER. He still waved his arm, they saw it on replay, they called it an invalid fair catch signal. In accordance with the rules.
4) the b!tching about “they didn’t say they were reviewing the signal, they can’t tell us they’re only looking at the sideline and then reverse it for something else” is simply WRONG. Consider a case on a kick return where the runner may have stepped out of bounds, and the replay officials buzz down to stop play and take a look at it. During that review, they actually discover the returner’s knee touched the turf 12 yards before he got to the sideline. Are you seriously telling me the replay officials would ignore that? “Oh, gee, we only told the coaches we were reviewing the sideline, we can’t possibly spot the ball where he was actually down instead, the coaches might get mad at us and chew us out a month later”?
TLDR: the call was right, replay doesn’t have to stick to what they originally said they were looking at, and being butt-hurt about it a month later while still not grasping the rules is pretty pathetic. Especially for a head coach.
* We point fingers at Kirk and Iowa fans who still can’t get over having a DeJean TD overturned
* Same-said Iowa fans come back to this thread to prove that, yes, they’re still butt-hurt and still don’t understand the rules
* We point and laugh at them
* They ditch the thread, saying they’re “done for today” lol
I’ve said all this before, but I’ll say it again for the Hawkeye fans in the back:
1) the invalid fair catch signal rule clearly states ANY waving of the arms qualifies. It doesn’t have to be over the head; it doesn’t have to affect the coverage team; if the returner waves his arm, it’s AUTOMATICALLY an invalid fair catch signal.
2) that means the kick CANNOT be returned and the ball is dead at the point the returner catches it. The play should have been blown dead instantly; however, officials are increasingly taught that, if there’s anything questionable, they should let the play run and trust replay will catch it.
3) which is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. Maybe the officials on the field weren’t certain they saw DeJean wave his arm; maybe the Minnesota players didn’t see it either; maybe the overhead view was the only clear shot of his arm flailing around. THAT DOESN’T MATTER. He still waved his arm, they saw it on replay, they called it an invalid fair catch signal. In accordance with the rules.
4) the b!tching about “they didn’t say they were reviewing the signal, they can’t tell us they’re only looking at the sideline and then reverse it for something else” is simply WRONG. Consider a case on a kick return where the runner may have stepped out of bounds, and the replay officials buzz down to stop play and take a look at it. During that review, they actually discover the returner’s knee touched the turf 12 yards before he got to the sideline. Are you seriously telling me the replay officials would ignore that? “Oh, gee, we only told the coaches we were reviewing the sideline, we can’t possibly spot the ball where he was actually down instead, the coaches might get mad at us and chew us out a month later”?
TLDR: the call was right, replay doesn’t have to stick to what they originally said they were looking at, and being butt-hurt about it a month later while still not grasping the rules is pretty pathetic. Especially for a head coach.
I don't bring it up, he was in. I could probably cite more official crimes against ISU in the last 5 years than have to go back to 2002. At some point you have to get over it, I get pissed about bad calls but I am capable of moving on. Its a game I have zero control over.