Again, you can point out something that you want to make sure they look at when they review it that they might have missed since, once again, the refs don't always get things right
F*CK IOWA
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You can clearly see MN players stop
Yes - which I agreed. The IA poster was claiming the infraction didn't occur because Fleck wasn't asking for a review. Since all scoring plays are reviewed, Fleck wouldn't be asking for a review. He would rather tell the officials to look at a certain aspect of the play while they are reviewing the play.
I can understand the heartbreak. I can't understand belaboring the point and trying out increasingly desperate explanations to maintain victimhood in spite of ample evidence refuting every argument floated thus far.
- That's how he runs.
- He was trying to keep his balance.
- He was waiving off his teammates.
- They were reviewing if he was out of bounds and can't look for anything else.
- It's not reviewable.
- It shouldn't be called in that situation because MN couldn't have seen him waive.
There's a difference in a blown call. (KSU DPI on ISU WR thrown flag and picked up, not just once.)
And a call being questioned because of interpretation in real-time. (UT RB forward progress ruled stopped even though lost ball before the whistle.)
And this type of call. Correct call, but allowed the play to complete rather than getting killed for blowing the play dead if he was incorrect in calling it.
I am so looking forward to this weekend's game so that X and CF can move on and I don't have to see this mess every single day.
And a call being questioned because of interpretation in real-time. (UT RB forward progress ruled stopped even though lost ball before the whistle.)
And this type of call. Correct call, but allowed the play to complete rather than getting killed for blowing the play dead if he was incorrect in calling it.
I am so looking forward to this weekend's game so that X and CF can move on and I don't have to see this mess every single day.
That wasn't what I was saying, I was saying that Fleck probably didn't even know about the invalid fair catch signal at the time of the play because of his reaction to the play. I don't think KF knew about it either honestly. I've been watching football for over 40 years and have never seen it before that I can remember.
So you think all head coaches know every rule? And because a coach didn’t complain as it happened that means the infraction didn’t occur?
What’s your point? It was an invalid fair catch. It was ultimately ruled correctly. Such calls have been made in the past. The only mistake the refs made on the play was not calling the illegal leap on Iowa
Really… why are Iowa fans still upset about this play?
My point is that I don't feel that anyone on the Minnesota punt coverage team or the coaches thought there were any infractions on the play when it happened and I don't think Cooper knew the full rules either and what he did wasn't a deliberate attempt to deceive anyone.
If Pollard builds the clinic at CyTown we can wave at that.
Coaches know the rule. However 99.9% of returners who point or wave their teammates off don't try and return the ball. Which would also explain why in over 40 year you can't recall ever seeing this. And more than likely neither have very many coaches.
I don't blame Cooper for trying it knowing how inept the Hawk offense happens to be.
Just can't do it, that's it and that's all.
Depends on what you think an infraction is. An invalid fair catch signal isn't a rule infraction. It's just something that has a definition in the rules and has a specific outcome.
Disagree. Minnesota players looked confused. Slowed up, were jogging, and WAY out of position on coverage.
It was bad officiating but the correct ruling. They should of stopped the play right away on the field.
I also don't really buy that one of the best special teams players in the country didn't realize what he was doing by waving his hand at should height. He knows the punt return rules.
KidSilverhair
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Iowa fans still salty about the Minnesota game last year (when Campbell’s apparent TD on an interception return was blown dead because officials thought he stepped out of bounds, which he didn’t) should be applauding the officials who let this return play out before checking it on review.
I mean, sure, it’s human nature to react differently depending on who feels screwed, but these were the exact same situations - they got it wrong last year and got it right this time.
And that doesn’t matter! The infraction still occurred!! The proper call was made. Iowa fans need to accept this fact and move on
Edit: what do you think should happen here: A player is being tackled. His knee barely hits the ground. He gets out of the tackle and runs to the end zone. All the players on the field never stopped on the play. All the coaches didn’t think his knee hit the ground. Upon review, it was determined his knee was in fact down. Is this still a touchdown?
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Where are we finding these quarterbacks? I know a huge part is scheme/playcalling also. petras/Padilla/hill are each worse than the prior.
Listen to Kickin' It. Jeff Woody does an excellent job of explaining the whole thing.
It doesn't f*cking matter. As soon as Cooper waves his arm and makes the fire call he is conceding a return. Jesus christ, it's not that hard to understand.
Every QB that goes to Iowa regresses. Every single one. You have to take what you can get