F*CK IOWA
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I think the people have seen MN players "pull up" right when Cooper starts waving. Not when he goes and grabs the ball. Meaning they were not in position or were caught off guard when he did actually grab the ball, believing a fair catch may have been called.I didn't watch the IA / MN game and honestly, I hadn't pulled up video of the play until now. It was enough to enjoy Iowa fans losing their minds, but reading thru the arguments in this thread piqued my curiosity. I just watched the ESPN video, which includes close-up of CD's motions beginning at about the 30 second mark:
Invalid fair catch wipes away Iowa TD in loss
During a 12-10 loss at home, officials wiped out Cooper DeJean's punt-return touchdown that would have given Iowa a late fourth-quarter lead against Minnesota because DeJean gave an invalid fair catch signal by waving his left arm.www.espn.com
I understand the rule and agree it was properly applied by the officiating crew. Period - end of story.
Having said that, the agony of defeat would be difficult to accept. He's clearly telling his teammates to get away, as evidenced by the player who peels off - I don't see any attempt to deceive. Without going into minutiae, it simply doesn't strike me as a "fair catch" signal (I know, I know) and I don't see any Gophers pulling up - how #'s 37 & 24 missed him on the sideline is a mystery! He makes a clutch play and a great return in a deciding moment of the game. As much as I hate Hawk fans, and I live in Iowa City so my disdain is significant, I understand their angst.
I can both hate EIU and admire Cooper DeJean's prowess on the football field. My interpretation finds him guilty of overexuberance and an unfortunate hand gesture. It has to be a bitter pill for EIU fans to swallow and I find myself in the unusual position of having empathy for them. I don't like the feeling but it will soon pass.
Was this after someone asked them to actually donate to the kids' hospital?
KidSilverhair
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If. You. Wave. Off. Your. Teammates. You. Cannot. Return. The. Punt.
I don’t know what’s so hard to understand.
KidSilverhair
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1. Just because I’m late arriving to the car accident doesn’t mean I won’t slow down and take a look for myself.
2. Sympathy and empathy are different emotions. I agree they are not deserving of sympathy!
Exactly how I feel. You summed it up perfectly.I didn't watch the IA / MN game and honestly, I hadn't pulled up video of the play until now. It was enough to enjoy Iowa fans losing their minds, but reading thru the arguments in this thread piqued my curiosity. I just watched the ESPN video, which includes close-up of CD's motions beginning at about the 30 second mark:
Invalid fair catch wipes away Iowa TD in loss
During a 12-10 loss at home, officials wiped out Cooper DeJean's punt-return touchdown that would have given Iowa a late fourth-quarter lead against Minnesota because DeJean gave an invalid fair catch signal by waving his left arm.
I understand the rule and agree it was properly applied by the officiating crew. Period - end of story.
Having said that, the agony of defeat would be difficult to accept. He's clearly telling his teammates to get away, as evidenced by the player who peels off - I don't see any attempt to deceive. Without going into minutiae, it simply doesn't strike me as a "fair catch" signal (I know, I know) and I don't see any Gophers pulling up - how #'s 37 & 24 missed him on the sideline is a mystery! He makes a clutch play and a great return in a deciding moment of the game. As much as I hate Hawk fans, and I live in Iowa City so my disdain is significant, I understand their angst.
I can both hate EIU and admire Cooper DeJean's prowess on the football field. My interpretation finds him guilty of overexuberance and an unfortunate hand gesture. It has to be a bitter pill for EIU fans to swallow and I find myself in the unusual position of having empathy for them. I don't like the feeling but it will soon pass.
Seems pretty straight forward to everyone except any hokroach fan and some of our own idiots.
The motion was deliberate. That can't be disputed. Whether or not it was done to deceive the Gophers is completely irrelevant.
Would have loved to have seen Francis on the sidelines after the refs call. “Those cheating motherf’ers!”
You might be right though I think it's pretty inconsistent maybe it's 30 percent of time they don't but that's why most weren't sure of the rule before this weekend. I do think having it taken place in this manner is going to clear it up going forward. You can about assume the leaders of the officials will be showing this play.
We explained it to our players as another man's unit and you don't want to touch it.
If that's your opinion then I respect it but we're fundamentally opposites. I don't like too much officiating and I would of deemed a penalty in that game as doing too much. It's similar in basketball in that I don't need them going to monitor every time to get call right.
Are you saying it's common for someone to wave off a punt and advance it unnoticed?
Could they review this one instead?
So in what situation is it OK for a penalty to be called if it affects the outcome of a game?
But you do realize every scoring play in football is reviewed, right?