Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Stanford and USC are private schools, so the CA BOR have no authority over them.
Well thats not going to happen today or next week, so I wouldn't worry about it.
That’s great. Don’t disagree.
But in the off chance AZ and ASU say “we’ll leave if SDSU comes as well”, the Big 12 would do it.
Of course, not a likely scenario, but it never was stated it was.
I get the lowball thing, I think yes that is a possibility, and probable. But every time those deals are done they are gradually raised to the full share, so it would not be forever. Thinking that the PAC could lowball them that much forever or for very long....you might be overestimating the power of the PAC. From what I have seen no one has jumped to join the PAC yet and may have flat out said no....Notice there hasnt been any official notice for SMU and SDSU yet. If that was cut and dry and they were on board wouldnt they announce that to get some actual good press. I have also heard Tulane said no thanks to the PAC, and would rather go to the B12 if an offer ever came.
What I am saying is the playoff calculations he is coming up with is not accurate, and I have seen nowhere.
So Yorkie talking to Gonzaga and possibly Fresno State? If Bball is a separate valuation ( idea that has merit) would kick money into high gear. May devalue FB as KU and lesser extent others for low viewership! Might want to be careful you don’t create a trap for yourself. I can see streaming for Wrestling, gymnastics and others. Women’s Bball and vball definitely needs linear viewership! So - find the west coast Bball powerhouses not in P5 and add as Bball only. Santa Clara, St Mary’s, Zags, and the like. Take Best Bball conference and make it superior- no more powder puffs!
Then the B12 will tell them to pound sand and the Arizona schools will abide.
Very doubtful it would be anything like that, but possible.
Yormark has proven he’ll wisely give up money to get the needed macros. I see him doing it again, whether SDSU or more PAC schools than optimal, rather than suddenly say go pound sand.
I Said USCLA to the Big 10 months before it happened too.......when everyone told me I was crazy. You want to take me as gospel for everything because I got one right? I have no idea who Greg F, Maybe a link?
I never said that a conference that got multiple teams in the playoff would not get more. There may be a premium for more schools but not in the way you are saying. If that was the case the big 12 would just ad 4 more G5s cuz hell money.
Lastly, sure they can offer less for a few years. Look at the G5s we added I believe it is for 2 years. B1G did it for several years, but some of that was because they took loans against their payments to improve facilities etc to B1G standards. But then again the B1G has a stronger position. Several sources are not only saying that no one is jumping at the chance to join the PAC but that it sounds like several G5s have flat out said NO. Notice SDSU, SMU, Tulane etc are all not announcing they are joining, when you know that the PAC wants them and needs them, and needs some good publicity?
One more thing. The going speculation now is that the Amazon deal is $100M per year for 2 years, so $10M per team. Amazon only wants Tier 1, one game per week. And the ESPN deal is $100M per year for some Tier 2 and 3. And will give another $10M per year for more content to help pay for the $50M they owe Comcast for overpayment. So another $10M, with the extra going straight to pay off last deal. That is $20M per year per team. What no one seems to know is if this is a new deal by ESPN, or if this is the deal ESPN pulled because of the Disney restructuring. Some speculate it was the $25M number rumored before, and now is this $20M number after ESPN pulled the last offer and came back with this.
My comment on your math is in one line you put the contract at $15M, then the next you put it at $25M, by just adding SMU and SDSU. No way they almost double their value for adding those, either they are at $25M now without and stay the same or similar, those 2 schools are not going to change the value that much.
I didnt say the B12 wouldnt take the Arizona schools, SDSU will not be some package with them.
Why the hell is SDSU still coming up in this discussion? Come on people, be better.
You misinterpreted my post.
The deal is $25M per school for the existing 10. The Pac12 wouldn't add SMU & SDSU unless they have a similar pro-rata as Big12. Or the Pac12 is going to keep a huge piece of any playoff money received for SMU & SDSU.
I'm not the Des Moines Register. Just posting what I hear.
Because people have a weird infatuation with SDSU, a misunderstanding of relevant metrics for the B12, and are generally unaware of the cultural nuances found in different regions of the country.
Something I am well aware of. Wanted to know where the poster got their info… then i remembered another post of theirs were they valued O and W over UCLA and USC.
Because of AZ wanting to not move alone, and there being a faction within AZs admin and boosters that would be appeased by SDSU (and ASU).
Not likely to get to that point, but taking out-of-the-money SDSU to cascade it to 5 PAC schools is a cost that will get the needed B12 votes fwiw. Given the revenue share structure, it’s not a cost that is materially different than a few PAC schools we’d also take to get other PAC schools
No one wants SDSU, and the top few combinations of additions are still on the table. Hopefully Yormark can close
Of course, it was never implied or stated you did.
SDSU’s cost isn’t a deal breaker if it gets Yormark everything else we want (3-5 PAC schools), so that’s not why it’s unlikely
It’s unlikely in part because the threat of SDSU option will be used to get other PAC schools to join Az (Which admittedly is also why Big 12 people have an incentive to push the openness to SDSU, as well as making the PAC pay SDSU more)
If they’re running that ruse, it’s for the general public. Those with access to the relevant data would see right through it.
I’d have a hard time believing the PAC hasn’t discussed SDSU (among other G5s) with the networks over the past 8 months. I have a hard time believing the B12 didn’t have those same discussions post-OUT (2021) or during their most recent extension (2022). The decision makers know what they are.
You are way over thinking this. SDSU is not a player what so ever. If we have to absorb SDSU to get some schools than **** that, Thats like the Pac 12 reaching out to Rice and SMU.
From Football Scoop
Let's say that happens, that the lift for UCLA to the Big Ten becomes too heavy to bear. What happens next? Does the Big Ten simply invite Stanford to take UCLA's place -- a move that does nothing to preserve the Pac-12 but manages to hurt both Cal and UCLA equally? Or does the B1G become the B18 and bring all UCLA, USC, Cal and Stanford aboard? And is that the UC regents' secret plan this whole time?
Sure its conjecture by a writer, but if forced the Big10 could have dropped UCLA or taken all 4 Pac12 schools in CA. No way they stop at 17. Sure the Big10 could have reached out to Oregon or Washington to go with Cal. But I don't think Big10 Presidents would chose those two over Stanford's academic prestige.