I can see that working out. What happens to the two state schools plus Stanford/cal will be interesting.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I think he wants to be at 16(right now) just like the SEC and B1G. I also think he would be willing to pass them(for now) going to 18 if the Four Corners+Oregon and Washington all applied for the Big12, knowing that both the B1G and SEC will be raiding the ACC in the next wave and obviously the Big12 picks up more schools then as well.
I feel that Yormark needs to approach ESPN as ask how can the Big12 support ESPN's desire to fill the late night Saturday time slot. Pac12 After Dark has traditionally meant a 9:30p CT kick-off.
Washington going to the Big12 is going to get so much pushback from the state I legit don’t know if it would happen. It makes 100% sense with a big ten invite not coming anytime soon but politically I just don’t know it if would be allowed.
Politics don’t matter in this. We hear this every time there’s a move and they still move.
Just watch West Virginia play at home, and then Regular Virginia will look like JLH making out with ScarJo.
Well there is an image I didn’t know I needed today
We haven’t really seen a politics clash like this. The politics move with UCLA was about leaving cal behind. Outside of that UCLA fits in very well with the big ten. Washington to the big 12 is a totally different animal.
Maybe, but then the Big12 moves on to Cal or Stanford. I doubt UW wants to be in the MWC until 2030 and hoping for a Big10 invite.
A Big12 invite to any Pac12 schools is a 6 year engagement. In 2030 if the Big10 or SEC decide to add ACC or Big12 schools, whether its Oregon, Washington, Kansas or Iowa State they would all jump at the chance.
Your right, it was Virginia.
Completely agree. Every major end game prediction theyve had has been way off. The Big 10 is about 8 teams lighter than projected. The NCAA is still here and so are all the conferences
The 3 scenarios I think could happen are
Big 10 and SEC stop at 20 because they'll hit diminishing returns. The other is that the top of the Big 10 and SEC
Big 10 and SEC eventually go to war post ACC to raid money schools from each other.
Someone gets in the ear if the elites in both conferences and they leave the to pursue more money, taking a few rivals with them and a few middle-of-the-roaders for 16-20 teams. In the contract is a competitive clause where sustained runs of poor play can lead to teams being removed.
Was VT? did not know that. Thought UVA may have been. With the appetite for expansion in the Big 10 being seemingly low I think they'll take 2 max. Without knowing the comishs stance its tough to know.
For Miami that ones a pipedream for sure. IDK if the SEC is the move. Clemson and Florida State feel like locks and IDK the SEC, who hasnt doubled dipped in expansion in the last 3 rounds will will want to triple dip in this one.
It definitely seems like the PACs option for a decent payout is Amazon etc. which I think is pretty dangerous. I don't think it's good to completely be out of the major networks and on an island. Having media partners that have mutual interest in the Big 10 and/or SEC is a good thing. While it probably means less favorable time slots, the cross-promotion, adjacent game carryover viewership and of course being partner with the carrier of the playoffs are all important.
If the PAC goes all in with Amazon for example, the other conferences (through their media partners) now have only incentive to exclude them from any future reorganization. There's enough overlap and entanglement in broadcast rights among the Big 10, SEC, Big 12 and ACC to incentivize success. And the price being paid to the Big 12 is not as large as the SEC and Big 12, but it's way too high to be viewed as the G5 "on the cheap" content.
I’m sorry but Cal or Stanford would just end athletics or go independent before they joined the big 12. I love the big 12 and think it’s an awesome conference but the snobbery/politics at those two schools would simply never permit them to join the Big12. You think Stanford wants any connection to WVU?
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Yormark should approach Disney and see if the 9:30CT late slot on ESPN is a must. Or would Disney be willing to adjust their schedule to go with the following CT kickoffs: 10:30a, 1:30p, 5:00p and 8:30p. With that schedule ESPN could jump ahead of Fox Big Noon.
The Big12 could offer its 3 schools in the East TZ for the 10:30a CT slot. ESPN could also approach the SEC and ACC conferences to see if they would have interest.
Yormark could see if the 8 Big12 schools in the Central TZ would be willing to kick 1 or 2 home games a year at 8:30p (maybe 9p if ESPN pushes back). BYU already has some 9:15p CT start times, so not much of a stretch for them. They might actually like the visibility to play 3-4 home games a year in the after dark time slot.
This approach could give Disney/ESPN pause for being part of the Pac12's future TV Media Rights. Why invest hundreds of million each year in the Pac12, when they have already made an investment in the Big12, SEC and ACC conferences media rights. IMO that could spell the end of the Pac12 if their next deal is so reliant on a streaming service.
How about the SEC and B1G expanding to 24-ish teams with 4 divisions and a playoff. Sell the packages like the NFC-AFL deals the NFL has
Then you corner the OTA market, have content for ESPN - Fox - Comcast and rake in the cash
You act like the BIg 12 is so far beneath Washington. You act like the conference is an STD. Well then piss on UW then, let them hope and pray the B10 calls a coming or fall further into irrelevance where no one cares about the west coast.
No one wants NFL lite. This is message board fodder and has never been talked about as something that is happening in the near future.
That's fine, if Cal & Stanford want to drop sports and become the equivalent to Cal-Poly. But their options are pretty limited and it's not like WSU, OSU or MWC schools are Ivy league caliber schools either.
I love this podcast. Forde isn’t for everyone but I like him and they just have fun and call **** as they see it.I found it interesting that Ross Dellenger went out of his way multiple times to say that the Big 12 may be talking to SMU as well. It’s just conjecture, but he’s as plugged in as it gets, so he’s probably at least hearing something behind the scenes. He talked about a “turf war” that’s going on between Yormark and Kliavkoff on multiple fronts.
Will be interesting to see what happens. It’s the first topic they cover below:
Yahoo Sports: College Football Enquirer: Pac-12 looks to expand, Brian Ferentz gets a new contract at Iowa & Aaron Rodgers is going dark on Apple Podcasts
Show Yahoo Sports: College Football Enquirer, Ep Pac-12 looks to expand, Brian Ferentz gets a new contract at Iowa & Aaron Rodgers is going dark - Feb 8, 2023podcasts.apple.com