Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

The only possible play I see for the PAC to take somebody like SMU would be that SMU is willing to take a massive paycut for years, probably below what they even get from the AAC.

There still is some value for the PAC to maybe get into DFW market due to old TV media and to have a central time zone presence. Let's say it raises their total media contract value from $250 to $270M. SMU (who currently gets $7m/year in the AAC) takes $5m/year for 5 years, then become full members after that. Even in a case similar to that, which I think is optimistic for the PAC, only nets the existing teams $1.5M extra per year for the first five years.

I think for even the PAC to pick up G5 schools they would have to be in big markets and have some decent value in terms of inventory (most notably time zone expansion) AND those schools would have to be so desperate to get into a "power" league that they are willing to take a paycut for quite a few years from even what they get from their G5 league.

I guess I see there as a tiny window where a PAC expansion with MAYBE a couple specific G5 teams MIGHT be worth considering. I see no scenarios where it makes sense for the Big 12 to even consider any more G5 teams.

And listening to these old media dinosaurs talk about value of schools and conferences is hilarious. They've been so wrong.
The only problem with that is that the Pac hasn’t really made any inroads with traditional tv service where markets could still matter. So far the only discussion I have really heard of have been with Amazon and other streamers.
 
They're pretty borderline for me. For the ACC the dream adds are Miami, VT, Pitt, and Louisville for me

Miami will go to the SEC, and VT will go to the Big 10. I think VT was on the Big 10 short list when Maryland and Rutgers were added.
 
Miami will go to the SEC, and VT will go to the Big 10. I think VT was on the Big 10 short list when Maryland and Rutgers were added.
VT was never on any list. Virginia was (which I didn’t 100% agree with) but VT wasn’t, now that they are a dumpster fire I can’t think of any other P5 conference that would want them.
 
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I dont hate that straigically at all. I just don't trust them to do things and vote in the conferences best interest. They cant sabatodge it, but idk. Keep potential toxicity out. That Big 10 invite may never come and they're gonna keep doing things to keep themsevles available until they get it.

I just feel like the less parties involved who only care about themselves the better. They're already showing their hand with this PAC 12 deal right now
The only reason they'd come to the B12 in the first place is because they're looking out for themselves. But if they didn't get their way in the B12, where could they threaten to go? Everywhere that would be better hasn't offered an invitation and knows they could at any time. Everywhere else would be a step down. It'd be in their best interest to get along until they get that B10/SEC invite, if it ever happens.
 
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I would guess Yormark has a priority list for both PAC now and ACC future (leftovers in ACC case) and a pretty good idea of who he wants based on going to 16, 20, or 24 total teams.

For example, if he never wants more than 16, he prob would just take 2 PACs, and wait on 2 ACCs. But if he wants 20, then 4 of each. For 24, you need 12 more total, and I don't know if the "last 4 in" would be worth it - you're talking Cal, BC, GT types.

Predicting the future for the 100th time... 4 from the PAC (prob the M4 because B1G will somehow take UW/UO) and 4 from the ACC. 20 teams total from east coast to the desert southwest.
 
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VT was never on any list. Virginia was (which I didn’t 100% agree with) but VT wasn’t, now that they are a dumpster fire I can’t think of any other P5 conference that would want them.
UVa is a big public AAU school, I think they'd be good fit for B1G - just in terms of academics, culture, prestige, etc. I mean, aren't they basically Michigan, except without the football glory?
 
I would guess Yormark has a priority list for both PAC now and ACC future (leftovers in ACC case) and a pretty good idea of who he wants based on going to 16, 20, or 24 total teams.

Predicting the future for the 100th time... 4 from the PAC (prob the M4 because B1G will somehow take UW/UO) and 4 from the ACC. 20 teams total from east coast to the desert southwest.

I hope you’re right. Still got my nut cup on, but I’m more optimistic than I was a couple of weeks ago for sure.
 
UVa is a big public AAU school, I think they'd be good fit for B1G - just in terms of academics, culture, prestige, etc. I mean, aren't they basically Michigan, except without the football glory?
Perfect analogy and yep I agree they fit in well with the big ten’s ideals. Just wish they had a halfway decent football team. Or their basketball team didn’t play a style that makes my eyes bleed
 
Ya I don't buy VT being on their radar. UVA, and UNC, GT yes.
GT gets mentioned a lot but they have completely abandoned their athletic programs and don’t really have much sway in the state with Georgia's dominance now. Would have been a much better fit a decade ago.
 
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It doesn't make any sense that the PAC is blaming the B12 for setting a ceiling on the rights deal. If the B12 sold low, it should be any problem for the PAC to exceed it which is all they need to do to keep all their members happy enough to stick around.
 
Yeah the pac is in major trouble and I’m legit not sure how this plays out. In theory the corner schools have a home but Oregon and Washington are probably the biggest brands. Would the Big12 add 6 more schools? What happens to the left over 4? Just a major unknown.

Wonder if it’s even possible for the ACC to add schools since geography is being thrown out the window a bit.
If I am the Big12 I would 100% add those 6 Pac 12 schools.

I would go with 3 scheduling pods (Play 5 teams every year & then rotate other 12 over a 3 year cycle.
  • UA, ASU, BYU, UU, OR, UW
  • ISU, KU, KSU, CU, OSU, (TT or TCU)
  • WVU, UCF, UC, UH, BU, (TT or TCU)
That would minimize travel costs, but still have schools in all 4 time zones
 

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