Except Shayok played a full year, not partial. I hope, if King chooses ISU, and if he's good enough, that the posters saying 2 years (or a partial plus a full season) are correct.
Tre King (Georgetown transfer)
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Except Shayok played a full year, not partial. I hope, if King chooses ISU, and if he's good enough, that the posters saying 2 years (or a partial plus a full season) are correct.
In the clips I watched, he seemed more like 6'7 than 6'9. Very unscientific, I realize. But at 6'9, you'd tower over most low D1 guys and he didn't seem to be doing that.
I think I was wrong in my initial conception.
Sounds like the deal sans a waiver is he's like Burton and McKay --
Sit first semester then can play one break/second semester and then a whole season "clean."
I guess for some of us non-Einstein types (me), we were just wondering how many schollies we will have nest year, for new players in addition to the three new frosh next year. No covid rules applied, then with the covid rules, because I guess they do matter for the next year or two.
Secondly I was kinda wondering do we get any of these wasted schollies back from this year? Doubt it if wasted. And are Hinson and Foster schollies actually wasted?
Or, sit this spring semester, then play two full years (fall and spring) next year and the year after? That sounds better to me. Able to practce with team but not play this spring.
Best possible, play with team (eligible) this spring, AND two full years if he chooses, thereafter (2.5 years with team). Best waiver scenario?
Any of that totally off?
All indications are that he was enrolled at Georgetown and on the team for a period of time this fall, so, barring waiver, he would not be eligible until next spring. Whether he gets the waiver or has to redshirt, he has 1.5 years of PLAYING left. This includes the bonus Covid year.
Yeah, he has already played three seasons at EKU with one being 20-21 (give back "free" season). Thus if he would have transferred offseason and all was clean he would have two seasons remaining. He technically has used his one time transfer to go to Georgetown, so any sitout time will be deducted from that two seasons, I believe (but not certain) that this fall is deducted from that two seasons,
His options then are
* get the waiver and play this spring (best case for ISU)
* redshirt this spring, play 1.5 seasons starting this fall (might require NCAA waiver for next fall)
* redshirt this spring and next fall, play 1 (or 1.5) seasons beginning after fall semester 2022
I think ISU is hoping they can convince the NCAA to grant an extraneous circumstance waiver and let him play this spring and all of next season for his 1.5 seasons. We shall see but I am certainly not confident on that.
They have been handing the things out like candy of late.
Not sure what case Grill had after already using his free transfer but they gave him another.
Why not King? He'd be immediately useful. Probably replaces Jones in the rotation if he buys in.
The challenge we face is that he had an undisclosed disciplinary infraction at Georgetown. That will carry weight in approving a waiver.
A Russian gulag is a better situation than Missouri
Maybe but we don't know the rule that he violated at GT that lead to his dismissal either. GT is a private college who has different standard of conduct to public schools or what the NCAA would factor into their decision.
The staff meet with Tre and didn't think it was a big issue and he owned up to his mistake in their eyes. That's when they decided to go all in on his recruitment. I read that to mean they thought he has is a good student/person and likely has a valid case for his waiver.
Also makes sense. If ISU didn't feel good about him or the waiver maybe they don't recruit him. Without some kind of waiver his 'playing time' almost seems too disjointed or complicated. I will try to stay positive on this one.
Really like Tre. Could be a great piece.
Conditt and Kunc could each call it a (college) career after this season. Even if you have one or both of them back, then it would only be for one more season after this one.
Jones is a high floor but low ceiling backstop, not really the guy you plan on being "the guy" at the 5.
There isn't a big man in the Lipsey-King-Watson recruiting class for TJ and KG.
Landing King would be a nice bridge between the current stable of big men and recruiting one or two for the next class and giving Green time to train them up before releasing the hounds on them.
True. We definitely can use and need Tre. Even if he only gets a mini-waiver to play all of next year (fall and spring), it is worth it for sure.
I hope we are not jumping the optimism gun and Tre picks ISU. We need good news.
I could see GC4 coming back, I think he really loves ISU and being a BMOC. It would help the team to be back, and not sure what his pro options really are. Be more surprised if he left than stayed.
Kunc, who knows, he may go home to play Euro ball and get paid, or may stay to work on development. Depends where he wants to live, I would guess.
Conditt was showing up on draft boards after his freshman and sophomore years -- he is 6'10" with terrific length and having Tyrese Haliburton setting him up did make him look good. I think some of that is probably the reason his development stalled. I think some of those projections went to his head. That being said, the potential is there to at least stick in the D-League if he has a nice year this year, and if he can make it there he can certainly make some money overseas. I think you are also right he loves Iowa State and finally being "the man" on the team, so I could imagine he's going to have big decisions to make.
Kunc's problem has never been quality of play but always been health. If he's healthy this year, he's going to be attractive for whatever European team in whichever city that might interest him. He's graduated from Washington State and working on his master's at Iowa State in MIS/supply chain, if I remember correctly, so he might want to finish that and see it having some personal and professional value. That isn't one of those generic "liberal studies" graduate degrees you can tell are just there for show purposes.
I could see both being back -- but worth it to prepare if not.