I'm not talking up ISU.
Texas has regularly struggled with KState, TCU, WVU, and even a loss to KU over the last 10 years.
For being the adult in the sandbox, they certainly acting like a child.
COLUMN: What happens to Iowa State if the Big 12 implodes?
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I'm not talking up ISU.
Texas has regularly struggled with KState, TCU, WVU, and even a loss to KU over the last 10 years.
For being the adult in the sandbox, they certainly acting like a child.
I don't want OU & UT to the SEC to happen I think its horrible for CFB. I wanted a strong regionalized B12 and wished Neb, Ark., Missouri would come back because they might realize their programs could do better on the field. I follow both schools in state but favor ISU a little. I would do handstands if ISU goes to the B1G, but it won't happen.
Here is the question to you. If UT & OU are willing to give up their position of power in the B12 go to the SEC for 15-20M why wouldn't 6 brands in the struggling PAC be willing to take an increase probably larger than that to go to the B1G? Its not just the current deals either, I expect the PAC to fall farther behind in the next deal.
I HOPE this blows up or is a negotiation ploy for networks that would be locked out of content to bid on the B12 or for FOX to be concerned about losing the UT & OU brand but it doesn't seem so.
How? The Big 10 currently distributes about 55 million to it's members. Unless ISU generates at least 55 million in rights revenues, it's not financially beneficial to Iowa. I could be wrong, but I don't think the media rights value for ISU are anywhere close to 55 million.
We've lost to Kansas once since 2009.
You're right, they can't. I'm saying that's possibly ESPN's view of things. From a competitive standpoint issue, I don't see how this benefits Texas or Oklahoma at all.
I think a lot of those numbers are just collective numbers of the member research institutions. I would love to see an actual dollar value of research that was conducted through collaborative efforts facilitated by the CIC. I bet its not near as big as people think.
The CIC doesn't actually share funding, they share resources like their libraries and, to a lesser degree, their faculty.
It sucks that all the conferences are siloed and looking out for internal interests. All these commissioners should get in a room, plan an exit from the NCAA, and form a new college football league. Take the existing P5 teams, add enough of the other top non-P5 teams, get to 8 divisions of 9 or 10 teams each. Then create a new CFB playoff that would rival what they have in March Madness. Division winners auto qualify plus an additional 8 at-large bids for a 16 team playoff that replaces the bowl system. I'd have to think that a new mega CFB league like that would command a huge amount of cash that would benefit everyone. Unfortunately there isn't a central entity to get all of these colleges and conferences on the same page.
They would have to subsidize Iowa State. If we were no longer financially self sufficient.
Yeah, if we go down to like $10,000,000 per year in revenue, ISU sports as we know it is over.
And really, the whole university and city of Ames will decline as a result.
And really, the whole university and city of Ames will decline as a result.
Name a school not named ND, Texas or OU that is going to generate that type of revenue for any conference. They are not out there is just that simple. Why would USC, UCLA or any PAC 12 team want to play in a conference 2 or 3 time zones away when they can stay where they are?
The Big 10 has a choice, do nothing and surrender the premium football conference to the SEC, or try; to add two new teams and make the best of a bad situation for them. Get KU for the basketball portion of it, and then ISU for the football and hope that is enough to keep the payments coming.
CycloneErik
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There are probably other ways to restructure between the two schools at that point. I doubt we'd see moves to just keep ISU where it is. More likely to contract departments and move remaining faculty and students over to Iowa City.
A 64 team organization makes a ton of sense. The problem is that, in setting this up, the schools with the biggest revenue would probably end up losing revenue or, at the least, not maximize their potential revenue.
This was already attempted in the 80's and 90's by Branstad and Pomerantz. That was an ugly time when the endgame became clear.
CycloneErik
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So after reading almost a dozen pages of posts on this thread, I still don't understand why some are saying Iowa would block ISU from coming into the big10. I mean, if the B10 conf. schools vote on it, their school alone can't decide it, correct?