This seems to be short sighted as how long are those going to be monster games until some teams fall to the bottom and stay there?
COLUMN: What happens to Iowa State if the Big 12 implodes?
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This seems to be short sighted as how long are those going to be monster games until some teams fall to the bottom and stay there?
Can you provide evidence to this (ie ISU not bringing value)? 'Image' like everything is merely perception. But, I've yet to see actual evidence to say that Iowa State doesn't bring anything to the table. In fact, I see more evidence to Iowa State bringing a lot to the table. I'll wait.
Fundraising and money at Missouri and Arkansas both is up compared to their previous conferences. It's not even close at Missouri. Missouri would have tanked as a FB program in the Big 12 with Barry Odom too. He sucked.
Those schools have astronomically more resources than Iowa State. Iowa State is doing better than it ever has which shouldn't be confused with doing as good as SEC schools.
Because that addition included OU, NEB. & even Texas A&M. ISU was a regional filler. It was a brilliant move by Pollard to try and be apart of that group but unfortunately didn't work. KU was a part of the group also but they were a filler also. I'm also sure the hope was to get Texas to come afterwards because Texas would think there were no other solutions.
The B1G has to add brands with recruiting grounds. Compare the number of recruits in the B1G footprint to the SEC they are dwarfed! They are to the ACC also but have the better brand value than the ACC. its not about getting to 16 or just adding numbers its about brands that add to tv and secondarily adding recruiting ground footprints for football.
If the SEC gets this done the B1G is left with two options USC, UCLA, Stanford, CAL, Or & UW to entice ND. ND would have all of its old rivals USC,USC,UM, MSU, Purdue as in conference games. The second option is to attack the SEC's grip on the SE with Va, NC, Ga. Tech, FSU and eventually ND(what other choice would they have). This puts the B1G in those heavy football recruits states but they are planted there as the secondary brand to the SEC schools except in NC & Ga.
Just like 9-7 teams making the NFL playoff and no one has a problem with that.
HoopsTournament
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its amazing that the perception of ISU is higher nationally than by our own fansSIAP
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Money. You are nuts if you think ISU has anywhere near the cash Mizzou and Arkansas have.
Remarkable. For some reason we also don't believe that AAU status is important as it pertains to money, when all we're really talking about is federal research money which is very important to the Big Ten.
I find it interesting that if Nebraska had not been an AAU member in 2010 then they would not have been invited to the Big Ten.
Oh. 'Resources' = 'Money'. And I thought 'resources' were things you could draw money 'from'. But you haven't quite detailed those though. Have you?
HoopsTournament
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Texas had a hand in removing their AAU status, but that is exactly right...
https://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/26078/nebraska-loses-aau-status
KC talk radio this afternoon went team by team on the remaining teams, and they basically said ISU was the one who didn't have to worry at all - Big10 just a matter of time... so couldn't agree with your statement enough.
I think Ohio state can’t be happy if this happens. Their conference would look even more inferior. Add to more powerhouses to the SEC and the big ten looks even worse.