Will the BIG10 Reverse Their Decision?
- Thread starter helechopper
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I typically defend the media but this is just weird. The official stats are listed on the coronavirus.iowa.gov website. If those stats are wrong, that's a story, but if they aren't, then those are the numbers.
Wouldn't going to bars, the gym to workout or play some sort of sport, or hanging out on campus be added risks as well? Not to mention the fact that you're coming into contact with tons of people outside of your social circle? You then don't get even a sliver to the quality of care and testing the football team does.
I think the confusion stems from how the state releases the numbers. They refer to the “24 hour reporting period “ but have never really explained what that is. The best I can tell is it’s approximately 0900-0900. Then they report the “new positives” and additional deaths. But they don’t break down exactly when any of those actually occurred. It’s pretty dumb.
No one is simultaneously advocating for going to bars while talking about the risk of football. Bars should probably have remained closed, especially in college towns. We also can weigh things on a scale of essentiality, where in any world education is going to be more essential than playing a game. But even then, a massive chunk of classes are online at this point and more and more schools are going entirely that way.
I guess that makes sense, but I just don't understand why different places would report different numbers, unless there is an issue with the way the state is reporting it. Now there was an issue for sure, and I think good reporting had a lot to do with discovering it. But reporting different numbers than the state for no other reason than they want to use a different formula is confusing to the public and poor service to your readers.
Right but I'm not talking about what should and shouldn't be opened. I'm talking about what is currently open, which are bars and restaurants and both things the football players are not allowed to go to. You're not allowed to hang out with people outside the football team nor are you allowed to walk in public without a mask.
If you're a normal student, the only person keeping you in check is yourself. You don't have to adhere to external rules outside of what the school currently has in place. Not only does the football team have the school rules, but they have the team rules they must follow as well as teammates and coaches that are keeping one another in check.
You throw in the fact that you have some of the best care in the state and yeah, I'm going to go with the football team probably being safer than being in the environment of a regular college student.
You're correct. Playing football probably adds some small level of risk of contracting COVID over not playing. Some people think taking any risk is too much. Some people think playing football is worth it. Either way, due to what's happening within the teams and the testing measures being taken community spread from within a football program seems pretty unlikely.
Playing the game adds risk, there's no doubt about that. I'm talking about all of the mitigating factors the team is deploying. Those are incredibly more exclusive than what normal college students are doing.
I may be putting words in @Statefan10 's mouth but the difference that I see is that the football players may be held to a higher standard which would be some mitigation if they adhere to it, but where the difference truly comes into play is the players have much better testing, probably tracing, and better care and post sickness evaluations than the general student population have at their disposal so while they might not be at much of a reduced risk of getting the virus they are able to deal with it in a much better fashion if they do get it and also be able to tell if they are going to have more lasting consequences from the enhanced cardio testing they will receive if they have had the virus.
Like I said, if you don't think this has an effect on the Big Ten you're out of your mind
Provisional death rates from the CDC. Ignore that the curves drop to zero at the end as states are slow to get death certificates to the CDC.
First graph is Covid 19 deaths sorted by by age group.
Second graph is flu, Covid 19 and pneumonia combined deaths sorted by age group.
I didn't hear anyone screaming about the 46,000 deaths per week from Pneumonia and the flu in February.
CDC Provisional deaths Feb 1 to current
First graph is Covid 19 deaths sorted by by age group.
Second graph is flu, Covid 19 and pneumonia combined deaths sorted by age group.
I didn't hear anyone screaming about the 46,000 deaths per week from Pneumonia and the flu in February.
CDC Provisional deaths Feb 1 to current
The numbers we’re seeing thrown around only reinforce my belief the whole late winter/spring football season narrative is a fantasy just to keep players from leaving.
This isn't going to end the B1G but it's going to effect them in a lot of ways we probably don't even understand.
Explain to me how people who don’t have Covid playing football increases their risk of getting Covid? It doesn’t magically appear if people get too close to each other.