Iowa Football Recruiting

If a band member were assaulted in Kinnick, I'd fully expect Pollard to release a statement about looking into it. If ESPN scrolls that information that isn't Pollards' doing.

I didn't realize that Iowa fans were allowed entry into the locker rooms during games. Heck I'm gonna sign up for a tour next time Iowa plays in Ames since this seems appropriate to you ISU fans.

I can't beleive how butt hurt ISU fans are by this stuff. If the roles were reversed you'd want Pollard to go nuclear instead of just releasing a statement like Barta did.

The bolded part above is why you just don't know who JP is then.

I personally know an ISU band member and have heard the stories about what has happened to them in Kinnick. JP has been told about them. JP has even said he's heard a lot of complaints about things that have happened to fans and band members in IC. But there's only so much you can do with complaints. You can look into them, and find there's really no evidence that you can file charges, and then what?

I personally don't know why bands travel to any away games at all.... besides bowl games of course. Like I said, I know band members at ISU... and most of them have no desire to go play in Kinnick. They say it's a miserable experience. Just getting stuff yelled at you all day long... things thrown at you.... etc. And I'm sure the same thing happens to the Iowa band in Ames unfortunately.

I just think it makes better sense to not put the bands through that.
 
And if you use Sagarin...

2019 - Iowa finished 10-3, ranked 14th in the country, 3rd place in the West
2018 - Iowa finished 9-4, ranked 10th in the country, 3rd place in the West
2017 - Iowa finished 8-5, ranked 18th in the country, 3rd in the West

If you compare that to the Big XII...

2019 - Texas finished 8-5, 15th in the country, 3rd in the Big XII
2018 - Iowa State finished 8-4, 37th in the country, 3rd in the Big XII
2017 - Oklahoma State finished 10-3, 11th in the country, 3rd in the Big XII

Looks like it’s more of a cakewalk to finish 3rd in the Big XII than it is to finish 3rd in the Big Ten West.

How many top 10 Sagarin finishes does Kirk have?
 
You should read it.... you might actually learn something about ISU football, and how you're totally wrong about all your trash talking towards Iowa fans.

I cannot stand Iowa fans, or Iowa football, or anything Iowa for that matter.... but then let's beat them some day.... or win more games than they do.... go to a better bowl game than they do.... have a better recruiting class than they do.... put more guys in the NFL, etc, etc, etc.

Your act gets really old. You have nothing to stand on except this BS about SOS. That's just dumb. We wouldn't win anymore games being in the B1G.... it's just a lazy excuse. We need to grow up and win games and lose the excuses.


You know what gets really old? A guy, like yourself, that says he’s a fan, but is only happy when the team he roots for fails.

your absence in the times of success, really amplified your presence in the times of failure.

It’s sad to imagine how unhappy your life has to be, and how unhappy you must make the people around you.

Jeff Reninga, who completely agrees you and calls your post out as the best of the thread, is mentally ill and gave up his wife and children to troll Cyclone websites. You are of like mind with him. Strange.
 
Iowa fan: “How dare Twins say something about the McCaffery boys being entitled when they say or do something that seems entitled they are HS kids”

Also Iowa fans: “Lock this kid up forever even though he was a HS kid and a judge determined he was coerced by an older sibling. He should never be allowed to play again.”

Also also Iowa: “I love Fran who signed a convicted felon”

If I remember right Twins was ripping on a HS kid because of a twitter post. That is a little different than talking about a college kids criminal record. Honestly I'm not gonna knock Young, but ISU fans certainly bring up Hubbard's criminal record and he didn't play a second of basketball for Iowa.
 
The bolded part above is why you just don't know who JP is then.

I personally know an ISU band member and have heard the stories about what has happened to them in Kinnick. JP has been told about them. JP has even said he's heard a lot of complaints about things that have happened to fans and band members in IC. But there's only so much you can do with complaints. You can look into them, and find there's really no evidence that you can file charges, and then what?

I personally don't know why bands travel to any away games at all.... besides bowl games of course. Like I said, I know band members at ISU... and most of them have no desire to go play in Kinnick. They say it's a miserable experience. Just getting stuff yelled at you all day long... things thrown at you.... etc. And I'm sure the same thing happens to the Iowa band in Ames unfortunately.

I just think it makes better sense to not put the bands through that.

I'll bet you a million dollars that a band member has never gone to Pollard and lodged a formal accusation that they were assaulted (had broken ribs) with possibly a sexual assault in Kinnick. Pollard would be derelict in his duties if he didn't take steps to look into it at that point. I hope you aren't claiming that Pollard ignored someone with physical injuries claiming assault or that he ignored sexual assault claims.
 
Can you link those quotes? Do we know for sure an Iowa fan said those things? Maybe Pollard can lead an investigation for you. He’s good at making stuff up to satisfy his fan base. Also, do you think it’s right for Isheem Young to play? You seem to be skirting that question for some reason.

I don’t know the kid so I can’t make any statement on his contrition for what he did. But the parallels you are drawing of a decision a HS kid made one night to an full grown adult scamming people for an extended period of time is asinine.
 
You know what gets really old? A guy, like yourself, that says he’s a fan, but is only happy when the team he roots for fails.

your absence in the times of success, really amplified your presence in the times of failure.

It’s sad to imagine how unhappy your life has to be, and how unhappy you must make the people around you.

Jeff Reninga, who completely agrees you and calls your post out as the best of the thread, is mentally ill and gave up his wife and children to troll Cyclone websites. You are of like mind with him. Strange.

Let me ask you a question Cat Stevens.... is that okay with you?

Honestly now... do you think Iowa has been a better football program than ISU, and currently still is? Simple question.... just answer it.

I think Iowa has had the better football program going all the way back to before Fry got there.... minus maybe a few years there during the McCarney era.... and they still do have the better program.

So until we have the better program... I just don't see the point in trying to talk trash to them.... that's all...... period. I'm not a Hawk lover at all. In fact, I hate them with a passion. I always want them to lose every game, no matter who they play.

But I'm also a realist, and they are better than we are in football..... period. If we want to talk smack, then simply beat them.
 
If I remember right Twins was ripping on a HS kid because of a twitter post. That is a little different than talking about a college kids criminal record. Honestly I'm not gonna knock Young, but ISU fans certainly bring up Hubbard's criminal record and he didn't play a second of basketball for Iowa.

How did Iowa handle the Pierre Pierce situation?
 
I don’t know the kid so I can’t make any statement on his contrition for what he did. But the parallels you are drawing of a decision a HS kid made one night to an full grown adult scamming people for an extended period of time is asinine.
No parallels. I believe most people (even those older than 18) deserve a second chance.
 
I'll bet you a million dollars that a band member has never gone to Pollard and lodged a formal accusation that they were assaulted (had broken ribs) with possibly a sexual assault in Kinnick. Pollard would be derelict in his duties if he didn't take steps to look into it at that point. I hope you aren't claiming that Pollard ignored someone with physical injuries claiming assault or that he ignored sexual assault claims.
If that actually happened that would be a terrible look for ISU. With that said our administration isn't utterly incompetent so that wouldn't have happened.
 
If I remember right Twins was ripping on a HS kid because of a twitter post. That is a little different than talking about a college kids criminal record. Honestly I'm not gonna knock Young, but ISU fans certainly bring up Hubbard's criminal record and he didn't play a second of basketball for Iowa.

Part 1: He was a HS kid when the incident happened.

Part 2: This is an absolutely comical excuse. The reason Hubbard never played for Iowa is because he got on campus and hated it. Fran signed him and brought him on to campus, where he left entirely by his own choice.
 
Part 1: He was a HS kid when the incident happened.

Part 2: This is an absolutely comical excuse. The reason Hubbard never played for Iowa is because he got on campus and hated it. Fran signed him and brought him on to campus, where he left entirely by his own choice.
I thought he got kicked off because he got into more trouble before the season even started?
 

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