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heitclone said:
Prohm likes playing 7 or 8 guys, if Bolton plays, we really only need one guy between Jackson and the group of wings you listed to step up. It's a tourney team if that happens, no reason to think it won't. I'm confident in everyone else.
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Hopefully this will be the team that it goes to 8 or 9 guys, maybe even 10. Strong kool aid drinker here so take this with a grain of salt but I really like the 5 guys brought in that can play this year and the 6 overall. I also think Zion and Lewis are ready to have a breakout year. All they will need is playing time.
 
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How many of those are under Prohm? What im saying is the current teams under him have had team chemistry problems and problems off the court. Over the last few years how many times have you heard " if only we had a leader"
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Haha, OH, ok, I see where this is going now. Didn't quite catch on.

Leaders:
Prohm's first season: Niang.
2nd season: Naz and Monte.
3rd season: LW
4th season: Took a while but Jacobsen taking the reigns a bit and basically telling guys like THT to get their **** together was a good sign. Haliburten as well although tricky as a true freshman, but to me it always looked like he was the one still trying to keep everyone together when it got tough. Conditt too although his time was limited.

You know what teams DID have issues? Eustachy's 00-01 Big 12 title team that imploded (and it sounds like there was tension in the locker room even on ISU's best team ever the year prior) and Fred's last team is still trying to string two well-played full games together.
 
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This year's team will be quite a bit less talented than last years team, but whether or not that will mean less wins is still debatable.

Last year's team didn't have great chemistry and the ball stuck at times, especially in THT's hands and sometimes LW too. If this year's team can share and move the ball better and play with better chemistry and overall attitude, they could win more games than last year's team did.

But don't for a minute think this year's roster will be more talented than last year.... that's far from the case. This team will probably have nobody that will be your "go to guy" when you need a bucket. Scoring could be an issue, but they could make up for that in other areas.
 
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With most the rosters pretty much set it looks line the media is releasing their early summer predictions for conferences. Pretty optimistic for ISU, finishing 4th and Haliburton as an First team all big 12. I think most of us would be ecstatic with the it ending up #4 considering the losses to the pro's.

NBC Sports released their Big 12 offseason rest (written by Hines).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports...he-streak-broken-will-kansas-get-back-on-top/

What will Iowa State be?: Steve Prohm’s team was one of the most difficult to figure out in all the country last year with the Cyclones sometimes looking like the class of the Big 12 and a Final Four contender and then at others looking like a mess. That team, which won the conference tournament but bowed out in the first round of the NCAAs, won’t much resemble this season’s squad with Marial Shayok, Nick Weiler-Babb, Lindell Wigginton and Talen Horton-Tucker all gone, the last two to early entry decisions.

Prohm isn’t without talent, though, as Tyrese Haliburton is back with NBA buzz while the frontcourt could be interesting with Michael Jacobson, Solomon Young and George Conditt all proven Big 12 players to varying degrees. Prentiss Nixon, a transfer from Colorado State, is expected to be a major contributor, as is Rasir Bolton, who hopes to get a waiver to play immediately after a standout freshman season at Penn State. The Cyclones have considerable upside, but plenty of questions, too.

4. IOWA STATE: This is probably a best-case scenario for the Cyclones, who will be replacing a lot from last year’s team but have a solid core returning. Steve Prohm’s team could play big this season with two bigs, and that will put considerable pressure on the backcourt of Tyrese Haliburton and Prentiss Nixon to produce. The key could be whether or not Penn State transfer Rasir Bolton gets a transfer waiver. He’s got the scoring skills the Cyclones sorely need.

WAY-TOO-EARLY ALL-BIG 12 TEAM
Udoka Azubuike, KANSAS (BIG 12 PLAYER OF THE YEAR)
Tyrese Haliburton, IOWA STATE
Devon Dotson, KANSAS
Chris Clarke, TEXAS TECH
Derek Culver, WEST VIRGINIA

CNNSI has similar thoughts.

4. Iowa State: Few teams in the conference enter 2019-20 with more question marks than the Cyclones. Iowa State needs to replace its top three scorers as well as veteran mainstay Nick Weiler-Babb, and will be relying on a cast of largely unknowns. Steve Prohm should work the most of his misshapen roster, though, and junior guard Tyrese Haliburton is a potential first-round pick. Senior forward Michael Jacobson also returns, leaving the Cyclones in line for a seventh tournament appearance in the last eight seasons.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/07/01/big-12-offseason-report-power-rankings-questions
 
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LLCoolJansma said:
With most the rosters pretty much set it looks line the media is releasing their early summer predictions for conferences. Pretty optimistic for ISU, finishing 4th and Haliburton as an First team all big 12. I think most of us would be ecstatic with the it ending up #4 considering the losses to the pro's.

NBC Sports released their Big 12 offseason rest (written by Hines).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports...he-streak-broken-will-kansas-get-back-on-top/

What will Iowa State be?: Steve Prohm’s team was one of the most difficult to figure out in all the country last year with the Cyclones sometimes looking like the class of the Big 12 and a Final Four contender and then at others looking like a mess. That team, which won the conference tournament but bowed out in the first round of the NCAAs, won’t much resemble this season’s squad with Marial Shayok, Nick Weiler-Babb, Lindell Wigginton and Talen Horton-Tucker all gone, the last two to early entry decisions.

Prohm isn’t without talent, though, as Tyrese Haliburton is back with NBA buzz while the frontcourt could be interesting with Michael Jacobson, Solomon Young and George Conditt all proven Big 12 players to varying degrees. Prentiss Nixon, a transfer from Colorado State, is expected to be a major contributor, as is Rasir Bolton, who hopes to get a waiver to play immediately after a standout freshman season at Penn State. The Cyclones have considerable upside, but plenty of questions, too.

4. IOWA STATE: This is probably a best-case scenario for the Cyclones, who will be replacing a lot from last year’s team but have a solid core returning. Steve Prohm’s team could play big this season with two bigs, and that will put considerable pressure on the backcourt of Tyrese Haliburton and Prentiss Nixon to produce. The key could be whether or not Penn State transfer Rasir Bolton gets a transfer waiver. He’s got the scoring skills the Cyclones sorely need.

WAY-TOO-EARLY ALL-BIG 12 TEAM
Udoka Azubuike, KANSAS (BIG 12 PLAYER OF THE YEAR)
Tyrese Haliburton, IOWA STATE
Devon Dotson, KANSAS
Chris Clarke, TEXAS TECH
Derek Culver, WEST VIRGINIA

CNNSI has similar thoughts.

4. Iowa State: Few teams in the conference enter 2019-20 with more question marks than the Cyclones. Iowa State needs to replace its top three scorers as well as veteran mainstay Nick Weiler-Babb, and will be relying on a cast of largely unknowns. Steve Prohm should work the most of his misshapen roster, though, and junior guard Tyrese Haliburton is a potential first-round pick. Senior forward Michael Jacobson also returns, leaving the Cyclones in line for a seventh tournament appearance in the last eight seasons.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/07/01/big-12-offseason-report-power-rankings-questions
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That really is a best case scenario finish. I think Hines has a better grasp on how good Tyrese is though compared to some of our own fans. Bolton's waiver decision an X-factor as well.
 
Halsted posted a podcast interview with Coach Prohm today.

@AlexHalsted I sat down with Steve Prohm today to discuss Iowa State's 2019-20 roster and more. Prohm goes into Rasir Bolton's waiver, why he likes his frontcourt, Cyclones in the NBA and more. You can listen on The Cyclone Scoop (Q&A to come): https://bit.ly/2XE7aM4

Prohm said the waiver review should be almost complete and expects an answer in a couple of weeks expected to be announce last week of July or August 1st.
 
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ForeverIowan said:
We are going to have a more balanced roster in terms of scoring than any team in recent memory. We dont have an 18 ppg guy on our roster but I wouldn't be entirely shocked if any of the below averaged 10+ on the season.

Haliburton
Bolton
Nixon
Lewis
Jacobsen
Conditt
Young
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I agree, and that is a good thing but also presents a problem. Who is the alpha dog, the top scorer, the closer, the go-to guy?

Last year we had 3 of those guys, and that was too many at times.

This year, who will fill that role? Who has the ball in his hands down 1 with 12 secs left?

I think it needs to be Bolton or maybe Nixon. And I haven't seen either of them play a minute. So I am optimistic, but also anxious about it.

Chemistry, man. It's not just a horrible experience in Gilman.
 
CascadeClone said:
I agree, and that is a good thing but also presents a problem. Who is the alpha dog, the top scorer, the closer, the go-to guy?

Last year we had 3 of those guys, and that was too many at times.

This year, who will fill that role? Who has the ball in his hands down 1 with 12 secs left?

I think it needs to be Bolton or maybe Nixon. And I haven't seen either of them play a minute. So I am optimistic, but also anxious about it.

Chemistry, man. It's not just a horrible experience in Gilman.
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I agree there needs to be a leader to emerge. I think Tyrese will be the one who most look to to calm the team and keep everyone accountable off the court and through out the season. His skill set is excellent for a PG to put people in position,, make the right pass, and hit open shots but his next step will be creating his own offense. As you pointed out that will be a need for this team in the final two minutes. There are number of options on the roster who look to be able to create though far from proven. Obviously Rasir would be the early choice if eligible, but I think Prohm will give Leech, Jackson, Griffin and even Lewis chances to emerge as the crunch time guys.

I have noticed Prohm has consistently been pointing out Terrence as a talented player who needs to contribute this year in his interviews. Not sure if this due to Lewis improving or if CSP is challenging him to get him to improve? Feeling like TL's make or break year in the Staff's eyes and I think Prohm will throw him to the wolves in the non-con to see how he reacts.
 
This group should be substantially better defensively and Prohm should be able to throw a lot of different defensive looks. Offensive flow remains to be seen but I like the potential.
 
LLCoolJansma said:
With most the rosters pretty much set it looks line the media is releasing their early summer predictions for conferences. Pretty optimistic for ISU, finishing 4th and Haliburton as an First team all big 12. I think most of us would be ecstatic with the it ending up #4 considering the losses to the pro's.

NBC Sports released their Big 12 offseason rest (written by Hines).

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports...he-streak-broken-will-kansas-get-back-on-top/

What will Iowa State be?: Steve Prohm’s team was one of the most difficult to figure out in all the country last year with the Cyclones sometimes looking like the class of the Big 12 and a Final Four contender and then at others looking like a mess. That team, which won the conference tournament but bowed out in the first round of the NCAAs, won’t much resemble this season’s squad with Marial Shayok, Nick Weiler-Babb, Lindell Wigginton and Talen Horton-Tucker all gone, the last two to early entry decisions.

Prohm isn’t without talent, though, as Tyrese Haliburton is back with NBA buzz while the frontcourt could be interesting with Michael Jacobson, Solomon Young and George Conditt all proven Big 12 players to varying degrees. Prentiss Nixon, a transfer from Colorado State, is expected to be a major contributor, as is Rasir Bolton, who hopes to get a waiver to play immediately after a standout freshman season at Penn State. The Cyclones have considerable upside, but plenty of questions, too.

4. IOWA STATE: This is probably a best-case scenario for the Cyclones, who will be replacing a lot from last year’s team but have a solid core returning. Steve Prohm’s team could play big this season with two bigs, and that will put considerable pressure on the backcourt of Tyrese Haliburton and Prentiss Nixon to produce. The key could be whether or not Penn State transfer Rasir Bolton gets a transfer waiver. He’s got the scoring skills the Cyclones sorely need.

WAY-TOO-EARLY ALL-BIG 12 TEAM
Udoka Azubuike, KANSAS (BIG 12 PLAYER OF THE YEAR)
Tyrese Haliburton, IOWA STATE
Devon Dotson, KANSAS
Chris Clarke, TEXAS TECH
Derek Culver, WEST VIRGINIA

CNNSI has similar thoughts.

4. Iowa State: Few teams in the conference enter 2019-20 with more question marks than the Cyclones. Iowa State needs to replace its top three scorers as well as veteran mainstay Nick Weiler-Babb, and will be relying on a cast of largely unknowns. Steve Prohm should work the most of his misshapen roster, though, and junior guard Tyrese Haliburton is a potential first-round pick. Senior forward Michael Jacobson also returns, leaving the Cyclones in line for a seventh tournament appearance in the last eight seasons.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/07/01/big-12-offseason-report-power-rankings-questions
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Thanks for those links. Iowa State might have the widest range of possible finish, because of so many uncertainties. Maybe as high as 3rd, as low as 7th.

SI.com is really high on OSU, at #5. All the starters return, but is it quality experience to crack the upper division?

Something tells me West Virginia will finish better than 9th or 10th, even though it seems to make sense.
 
I love you guys, but there is a lot of Kool-Aid in here. We could end up being a pretty salty team, but there are a ton of unknowns* in the back-court in a guards' game.

I almost think you have to reserve judgement until we see about Bolton or not, too.

*not Haliburton and probably not Nixon, but you need 4-5 good guards in college basketball, not the roughly two that we know we have... even Bolton does not seal the deal
 
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