I guess Iowa's collapse will start in March this year...

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Actually, Penn State #75 in NET) counting as a Q1 road win this exposes a major flaw in the NET rankings. I fully expect the NCAA to tighten up the Q1 and Q2 ranges for next year because right now the ranges are WAY to broad.
Right. I agree it is too broad. It was just an observation. They will be a bit higher, as the NET rankings haven't been updated since last night's game. Still, a road win against a team many would agree is poor could still be a quadrant 1 one under the current setup.
 
Actually, Penn State #75 in NET) counting as a Q1 road win this exposes a major flaw in the NET rankings. I fully expect the NCAA to tighten up the Q1 and Q2 ranges for next year because right now the ranges are WAY to broad.
I totally agree but somebody else here posted a link that the committee already kind of does this by breaking the Q1’s into Q1a and Q1b so the PSU win would fall in the latter category
 
You know you're loaded with talent when you beat out Kansas for a kid that can't even get minutes at ISU

With that type of talent you would think ISU would finally break the Kansas stranglehold on the Big 12 this year since KU is down.
 
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I totally agree but somebody else here posted a link that the committee already kind of does this by breaking the Q1’s into Q1a and Q1b so the PSU win would fall in the latter category

Yes, the committee essentially realized that they screwed up the ranges. What strikes me as weird though is that you don't hear any of the networks talking about Q1a or Q1b wins. Also, if you paid attention to how the top 16 were selected it appears that the committee is basically going all in on Net, BPI, and Kenpom.
 
Yes, the committee essentially realized that they screwed up the ranges. What strikes me as weird though is that you don't hear any of the networks talking about Q1a or Q1b wins. Also, if you paid attention to how the top 16 were selected it appears that the committee is basically going all in on Net, BPI, and Kenpom.
Sagarin too, correct?
 
Sagarin too, correct?

Yes, they are essentially using any metric they can get their hands on, which is fantastic. I find it kind of ironic because basically after they created the NET formula they realized how poorly they've been analyzing a teams body of work.
 
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I sort of disagree. The NET ratings basically made up the entire top 16. It was almost seeded exactly except KU jumped TT from 17 to 16, and VA Tech missing it's best player was left out. I honestly think the only real relevant thing is the NET at this point.
 
Actually, Penn State #75 in NET) counting as a Q1 road win this exposes a major flaw in the NET rankings. I fully expect the NCAA to tighten up the Q1 and Q2 ranges for next year because right now the ranges are WAY to broad.

PSU isn't probably as bad as their record indicates, but really you shouldn't get extra points for beating a team like that in any circumstance.
 
Yep, just saying that KU is ripe for the picking this year.

The problem is that they still won't lose at home and too many teams crap themselves at home against Kansas. Seriously, Iowa State is the only team in the conference that has had decent success against KU over the last several years. I agree that KU is ripe for the picking but Self is a magician.
 
The problem is that they still won't lose at home and too many teams crap themselves at home against Kansas. Seriously, Iowa State is the only team in the conference that has had decent success against KU over the last several years. I agree that KU is ripe for the picking but Self is a magician.

Well this has got to be the year to unseat them. If not, I'm not sure another Big 12 team wins the conference for the next 10 years.
 
Well this has got to be the year to unseat them. If not, I'm not sure another Big 12 team wins the conference for the next 10 years.

I don't disagree. We haven't even seen a KU game gift wrapped by the officials yet either. If K-State beats us on Saturday I think they will win the conference outright.
 
If that’s the case you guys are sitting good. Think you only dropped 3 with the TCU loss

Yep, I stated that the other day but some of the local Iowa trolls found that optimistic. I appreciate a rational conversation, you are usually one of the good ones. I found it odd that Iowa dropped 3 spots after last night, I couldn't quite figure that one out.
 
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