Big 12 Embarrassing
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Here's a composite of 120 computer ratings before bowl season: http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
Scroll down for conference means. Bowl games wont affect the ratings any more than other weeks.
Scroll down for conference means. Bowl games wont affect the ratings any more than other weeks.
Section110, the bottom line is the Big 12 is usually okay while the Big 10 is usually bad. No different this year, despite the unfavorable bowl schedule.
Don't be a sunshine pumper, this was after his post saying the Big 12 had 3 Elite teams and other conferences with 14 teams having 4-5.
Nice try, sir.
Yeah, you replied back the Big 12 did have 3 and the Big Ten did have 4-5. Who were the 4-5?
I know you are mentally challenged, but my statement was a hypothetical anyway. Mathematically the Big 12 having 3 great teams is the same as a 14 team league having 4-5. That part isn't up for debate, it's true beyond argument for non-idiots.
All-Time Major Bowls:
Big 12 138 Bowls, 67-71-0, .486 W-L%
Big 10: 257 Bowls, 116-140-1, .453 W-L%
It's impossible to predict statistically but after over 110 more games I think it's safe to say the current Big 12 would be pretty close to what the Big 10 is currently in major bowls.
The massey matrix is a good tool but I think some years it's main value is simply showing which computer ranking has the least anomalies and then that computer ranking is the best one.
It includes human voter polls and also includes some computer models that are so horrendously bad they only serve to make the matrix worse. Still it shows enough of what we're talking about that Iowa, MSU and especially NW were all much higher with the committee than they were by averaging out dozens of other models.
How is that true?
10 teams
3 are "elite" still waiting on your idea what what constitutes as an "Elite" team
That's 30%
14 Teams
4 are "Elite"
That's 21% and Big 10 teams have to play in a Championship game which may or may not impact their chances of earning that elusive "elite" title you cannot explain.
You can use the fact that we play 1 more conference game all you want but the fact is that this year that was against Kansas. Who may or may not be one of the last ranked Division 1 football teams int he country. That's just thinking "hypothetically" though.
It's not hypothetical that what I posted is 100% true.
It's hypothetical how many great teams any conference has in any year. If the Big 12 had 5 great teams, that is the same as the Big 10 having 7. If the Big 12 has 3 that is the same as the Big Ten having 4-5.
I feel like I'm teaching first grade and not getting paid.
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No one is arguing about Northwestern, Iowa or Michigan State. Did the Big 12 have a good bowl year in your honest opinion? Just answer that and lets let this go. If you answer yes, then congratulations as if it's not already obvious, we have a different way of justifying things.
No, that's not what he said. He was saying other conferences that are larger would need 4-5 Elite teams to match our 3 that we had this year in the Big 12. Seeing as Michigan State and Iowa were exposed as extremely average teams when they finally had to play good teams with no significant excuses of injuries or suspension then that conclusively exposes that the Big 10 only had 1 Elite team this year, Ohio State, Mr. Sunshine Pumper.
Once again another argument I wasn't having with you. Until you explain how you justify a team as "Elite" your argument has nothing.
Uhhh, isn't that just what you did in your two posts? The Big XII hasn't been around as long as the B1G, so you are theorizing what would happen after 110 more bowl games for the Big XII. Perhaps YOU should give up!!
And had he worded it this way originally I would have completely agreed with him. I never said that Iowa or Michigan State were elite teams. But if he's saying there's 3 elite teams in the Big 12 this year and that the Big 12 had a great bowl season I would respectfully disagree.