Bubu
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Yeah I just wanted to post that to combat the theory that Leath and Pollard must have an incriminating video or some overwhelming evidence to act so strongly. Universities have acted a lot stronger for a lot less than a basketball player's sexual activities being broadcasted across the nation, let alone being accused of rape (proven guilty/innocent or not).
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If the topic doesn't interest you, and you don't care, why do you post on threads?
I was saying I don't think people will be talking about it much beyond the decision coming down, because most people stopped talking about this till this lawsuit happened. But you had to be "cute" and take what I said literally.
Not sure, but I don't think people were trying to equate victims here. I think they were saying the act of making a false accusation is nearly as bad because it allows cover and helps rapists walk planting seeds of doubt about accusations lacking an abbundance of evidence and further discourages women from coming forward in these situations. At least that's how I took it. Granted I cannot imagine being a victim in either situation but imagine both rob ones ability to trust in humanity but rape is a dehumanizing act that forever scars ones self worth that cannot be undone, a false accusation can partially be. So agree the victims should not be considered equal unless you factor the potential future victims of rape that may have to undergo that pain because of the act of false accusers making.it more difficult to convict and lock up rapists.
No in fact they would prove she was within capacity to consent (throwing out the too drunk to really consent theory). It would not prove she consented however. Someone can revoke consent at any moment.
And then he waited another 3 weeks. Ignoring that he was granted a scholarship in June and all evidence and prior action went his way and that this was the basis of the district judges opinion it is not a wild consiracy theory. Your.taking ISUs post stay ruling spin verbatim as the whole truth. Who.knows the exact truth but the spin was weak imo. If.he was going.to.rule.this way one would expect a heads up given the timing. Am sure the defense assumed the delay.meant they had won.
I don't think Leath was out to make the ISU campus safer by kicking Bubu off the basketball team, I think he was looking to avoid having Bubu represent ISU's athletic department in any way. As someone already mentioned, having a threesome with a drunk girl and having that information get out to the public is enough of a black eye that it would be time to let him move on somewhere else.
I don't think he raped anyone, especially when the alleged victim and her mom decided they needed to fabricate evidence, apparently because they believed they had no case. However, the timing of Leath's decision is still baffling. The info had already gotten out and they let him stay on the team, then booted him the next year. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
That's one version. My comment was:
"I hope a resolution comes that quickly. However, there will likely be people arguing about it long after any court decisions come down."
To which you replied:
"pretty sure everyone stopped caring on here, till this happened."
"Not currently arguing/discussing" =/= "not caring". Many people care passionately on this topic from both ends of the spectrum.
If you don't care about a topic, fine. There are many threads on this site that I don't even bother to open. If everyone has stopped caring, as you claim, the threads with Bubu in the title would die from lack of use. The thread is active (with your assistance, I might add), which disproves your claim. If your contribution is to display your boredom with zzzzzz posts, why not run along to a thread that can capture your interest and attention?
For the record, Sam Mack still comes up as a topic...and he was probably done here at ISU before many CF posters were born.
I'd have to agree with that one. Given auto-correct and abbreviations and poor grammar, most texts have to be "mentally decoded" even if they're from people who are stone cold sober.
My take on what it means is that she was coherent enough to call and text someone she knew. That means she wasn't drunk enough to not be able to consent.
I agree with much of what you said, but I do have a few questions. Do you think Leath and JP know things about this case other than heresay that the county attorney, ALJ and District judge don't know? If they do and didn't report it, they would be in deep trouble. What about the girl having the nerve, lack of morals, or whatever you want to call it to lie under oath and fabricate evidence in a criminal case? And why did Leath and JP basically use the media to make derogatory statements about BuBu that also would clearly influence Fred not to play him? How are you sure they sleep well at night with what they have done and how they have handled this whole situation? I agree it will be good for more facts to come out, but with what we know so far, pretty hard to defend Leath and JP for the way they've handled this imo.
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