Student Section

I was looking at Big 12 memes for a different thread and discovered this. Seems topical so I'll just leave it right here...

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Side tracking a bit.. I think it's important to remember that there are die hard students. It frustrates the hell out of me because I take cyclone basketball so serious (probably far more serious than I should) and the majority of students today just dont. There's nothing you can do to fix that. It's ultimately up to the student, if they grew up loving sports, if they're excited to go out there and make fools of themselves, etc. I've said it once, I'll say it 1000 more times, kids today are just "too cool" to go to these games and go bonkers. But it absolutely baffles my mind when people say they don't want to wait in line. You can literally get in at game time for every game except for KU and Iowa, so quit falling back on that excuse (don't know who I'm telling this.. Everyone on here knows).

But don't ever accuse those of us who take it so serious that we camp out of "ruining it" for other students. They can suck it the hell up. A line is a line whether it's single file or jumbled up. The huge portion of students that don't show up are an embarrassment to those of us students that really care, not just the general crowd.
 
I left Ankeny at 4:45 and barely got to my seat 4 min before tip. Not sure why traffic was that bad, was it commuting students leaving that caused a mess? Or people getting off work at 5?


It may have been worse due to the time of day, but there is NO traffic control around Hilton. They just let the traffic lights do it. Which means maybe 40 seconds for any cars turning left, if there isn't cross traffic to wait for. Two games ago we were on Lincolnway for a half hour. When were able to move it was more likely only a few inches vs a few feet.
 
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For games that receive several weeks of hype they are better, but the average game is not way better.

Then maybe students should get a ton of credit for showing up when the team was crappy while the rest of Hilton quit on the team? It's all relative.

That's actually a perfect example of students vs regular ticketholders. Students (in general) want an experience and ticketholders want wins. Your hardcore fans will be there regardless but you have to draw the casual fan.
 
It may have been worse due to the time of day, but there is NO traffic control around Hilton. They just let the traffic lights do it. Which means maybe 40 seconds for any cars turning left, if there isn't cross traffic to wait for. Two games ago we were on Lincolnway for a half hour. When were able to move it was more likely only a few inches vs a few feet.
I'm pretty sure there is a person controlling the lights at least on the SE corner of the parking lot.
 
Then maybe students should get a ton of credit for showing up when the team was crappy while the rest of Hilton quit on the team? It's all relative.

That's actually a perfect example of students vs regular ticketholders. Students (in general) want an experience and ticketholders want wins. Your hardcore fans will be there regardless but you have to draw the casual fan.
In general the students four to eight years ago did. People were often making statements how good the support is given the lack of success.
 
There was about 75 students in the upper deck last night.

~900 seats in the upper deck student section. Students are allocated 2500 seats. About 1700 showed up for Texas.

Yeah, those numbers add up... 2500 - 900 + 75 = 1675 = about 1700.. maybe I was off by about 100 because of empty seats in the lower section. And I could be off on the numbers. I know it is between 900 and 1000 seats in the upper deck. Definitely less than 1000.

sorry, but not even the lower section was full. not even close. I would say closer to 1200 showed up. But like I said before, The 1200 made some noise.

So you are saying there were 300-400 empty seats in the lower section?
 
Yeah, those numbers add up... 2500 - 900 + 75 = 1675 = about 1700.. maybe I was off by about 100 because of empty seats in the lower section. And I could be off on the numbers. I know it is between 900 and 1000 seats in the upper deck. Definitely less than 1000.



So you are saying there were 300-400 empty seats in the lower section?

Why do you even care so much about the exact number? Student attendance was absolutely pathetic last night, end of story. To be fair I thought the rest of the crowd was going to be awful too but it filled in nicely by halfway through the first half. Can't fault people for not being able to leave work early and then having to get through traffic.
 
I'm pretty sure there is a person controlling the lights at least on the SE corner of the parking lot.

I believe they remote control the light at Linconway & University also. The problem getting on to University from Lincoln Way is the guys running the first entrance (from the North) to the lots (the one that goes to the big $$$ lots). If you ever watch them for any length of time, instead of alternating 20 cars from the north, 20 from the south, they let cars from the south keep entering & entering & entering. Meanwhile, all the cars from the north sit there until no one can enter University from Lincoln way, even if they have the green light with them. Then people start trying to cram in, and end up blocking the intersection. It was pretty ridiculous last night. If they would start alternating more efficiently, and not waiting until there are no more cars in sight coming north from HWY 30, the Lincoln Way route wouldn't get so badly backed up.
 
Why do you even care so much about the exact number? Student attendance was absolutely pathetic last night, end of story.

Because people are just making stuff up. Exaggerating to make a point where it isn't needed. If you are going to come on here and talk about people that aren't even showing up to games, so they are definitely not going to show up to a cyclone fanatic thread, at least be factual about it.

Like my point with IASTATE4LIFE, he is implying (not even actually implying, basically directly stating) that there were 300+ empty seats in the lower section last night. I didn't see that. I don't believe it to be true.


To be fair I thought the rest of the crowd was going to be awful too but it filled in nicely by halfway through the first half. Can't fault people for not being able to leave work early and then having to get through traffic.

Also, I like this part here. Students have no excuses, but regular ticket holders can't fault them for not being able to schedule in advance. Get to the game by tip-off. Plan ahead. The first 5 minutes of a game help set a pace and tone for the rest of the game. They are important.

But this is tangential to the thread. I don't think the students have any legitimate excuses for the poor attendance. I am just saying that the other ticket holders can plan ahead better, and shouldn't get a pass on arriving late either. (Though arriving late is much much better than not arriving at all)
 
...and whose brilliant idea was it to have a whole herd of older, out-of-shape (for the most part) joggers running up the sidewalk on University, strung out for fifty yards, preventing cars from entering the lots?

Makes me think of the original "Death Race", where you got points for the pedestrians you took out.
 
Also, I like this part here. Students have no excuses, but regular ticket holders can't fault them for not being able to schedule in advance. Get to the game by tip-off. Plan ahead. The first 5 minutes of a game help set a pace and tone for the rest of the game. They are important.

But this is tangential to the thread. I don't think the students have any legitimate excuses for the poor attendance. I am just saying that the other ticket holders can plan ahead better, and shouldn't get a pass on arriving late either. (Though arriving late is much much better than not arriving at all)

Ha, nice, I'm sure next time everyone will make sure to plan ahead and sneak out of their full-time jobs in order to get to the game by time. I have a somewhat flexible job and headed out early to make it in time but if you can't realize there are lots of people with a black/white quit time of 5pm then I give up.
 
Because people are just making stuff up. Exaggerating to make a point where it isn't needed. If you are going to come on here and talk about people that aren't even showing up to games, so they are definitely not going to show up to a cyclone fanatic thread, at least be factual about it.

Like my point with IASTATE4LIFE, he is implying (not even actually implying, basically directly stating) that there were 300+ empty seats in the lower section last night. I didn't see that. I don't believe it to be true.




Also, I like this part here. Students have no excuses, but regular ticket holders can't fault them for not being able to schedule in advance. Get to the game by tip-off. Plan ahead. The first 5 minutes of a game help set a pace and tone for the rest of the game. They are important.

But this is tangential to the thread. I don't think the students have any legitimate excuses for the poor attendance. I am just saying that the other ticket holders can plan ahead better, and shouldn't get a pass on arriving late either. (Though arriving late is much much better than not arriving at all)

I guess that is what I am saying. And I would be willing to bet it was closer to 1200 then 1700. Looked to me like non students decided to move from their top row of the rafter seats for the better empty upper deck seats. But I don't think it really matters, the fact is there wasn't enough, and things need to change so the seats get filled.
 
I think they should oversell the entire arena for our biggest games next year and you guys who have been loyal fans for years can get screwed out of watching the biggest games while you freeze your balls off outside. Let's see if that makes you more motivated to go to every game. It was one of the coldest winters in a long time and those long waits for those big games really ****** off a ton of students. Students go to games in groups so if you **** off enough groups of kids, which has happened, then attendance goes way down because the games are no longer fun.

The tickets need to have some VALUE. Right now a student ticket is worth nothing. Make it something that people want but can't get - boom you have full seats every night because the students who have tickets but won't be there will sell their tickets or give them to friends.
 

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