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IcSyU said:
No one disagrees with this.

However, what incentive does the AD have to go through more work to sell the tickets for a small price when they can sell them multiple times and get $175 for each seat in the section?

I know in the past people have used the argument that "They're my tickets, I can do with them what I want" when it comes to poor attendance in the early year games. How is that any different from students? You can't have it both ways.

For the early year games I'd love to sit in the seats in a donor section in the lower level. If Jamie would just sell those for $25 since someone bought the ticket but didn't use it I would do that for the non-conference games.
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Even if the total amount contributed by students is $175 for a season ticket, accounting for the overselling, that still is only $10 per home game per student section seat. Are you suggesting the department cannot earn more than that selling season tickets?

I don't know how much $$ the student fee assessment counts toward the discounted price, but I do know that there are folks in Hilton paying $30+ per game ticket plus thousands of dollars in club donations to keep their seats as well.

I don't think we can assume that ISU's AD loses money by shrinking the student section and selling GA tickets.
 
In fact, I wouldnt mind if they bump up the price of my 125 upper deck season tickets to 150 to help off set this cost. I feel like I am stealing from the AD at 125 for season tickets.
 
IcSyU said:
No one disagrees with this.

However, what incentive does the AD have to go through more work to sell the tickets for a small price when they can sell them multiple times and get $175 for each seat in the section?

I know in the past people have used the argument that "They're my tickets, I can do with them what I want" when it comes to poor attendance in the early year games. How is that any different from students? You can't have it both ways.

For the early year games I'd love to sit in the seats in a donor section in the lower level. If Jamie would just sell those for $25 since someone bought the ticket but didn't use it I would do that for the non-conference games.
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It absoultely is different with students because they are an identifiable section of the crowd whose tickets are specifically blocked off. I would be advocating for the same thing if there was a "Senior Section" where they only sold to people over the age of 70. If they didn't show up, I'd say get rid of the "Senior Section." It's the only portion of the stadium where you can see empty seats and identify who is not there.
 
Al_4_State said:
What a bunch of *******. You have all week to study. Also: a hangover? Get of bed, make a Bloody Mary or 5, and rub some ******* dirt on it. You're in college. The best way to kill a hangover, in the short term, is to lay back into the booze immediately.
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I agree. But I know it is what happens.
 
Die4Cy said:
Even if the total amount contributed by students is $175 for a season ticket, accounting for the overselling, that still is only $10 per home game per student section seat. Are you suggesting the department cannot earn more than that selling season tickets?

I don't know how much $$ the student fee assessment counts toward the discounted price, but I do know that there are folks in Hilton paying $30+ per game ticket plus thousands of dollars in club donations to keep their seats as well.

I don't think we can assume that ISU's AD loses money by shrinking the student section and selling GA tickets.
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Students aren't getting all the games that everyone else is getting. No break games cuts out a few of the games where the AD can resell the tickets. The AD will be able to sell the conference games but the games against made up schools at the beginning of the year probably aren't going to sell out.

And the AD is better off selling season tickets. I'm sure if Jamie had the option he wouldn't hold ANY back for single game tickets. More season tickets sold = better for him. He loses on the big games but is significantly better off for most non-conference games and week night conference games.

Lastly, you are really undercutting what student fees contribute to the AD budget. Don't crap where you eat applies here. No one is taking issue with the athletics fee right now. You don't want to make it an issue so you leave it alone.
ajk4st8 said:
In fact, I wouldnt mind if they bump up the price of my 125 upper deck season tickets to 150 to help off set this cost. I feel like I am stealing from the AD at 125 for season tickets.
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I think they did go up to $150 last year and I imagine they'll continue to go up since the demand is definitely there. I won't be the least bit surprised if 5 years from now $200 season tickets and a $100 donation are basically requirements to get a seat in Hilton.
 
My opinion is to make the current upperdeck student section general admission sections. 1/4 of that section is to be reserved for students and 3/4 for the general public if it sells out in advance of gameday. If on gameday the section isn't filled with the student allotment half hour before tip, open it up to the general public that walk up on gameday and allow them to purchase tickets.

I'm not exactly sure how many student tickets they oversell currently, but I would still oversell student tickets by 500-1000? to give them the opportunity to fill up their portion.

For those that get turned away on big games, (Kansas, Iowa, etc.), reward the students that go to all the games. This is likely to be a little harder for the non-conference games as hardly any games have been played to truly reward those that go. Although attendance will likely be up for the games against UNC-Ashville and Coastal Carolina type games.
 
IcSyU said:
Students aren't getting all the games that everyone else is getting. No break games cuts out a few of the games where the AD can resell the tickets. The AD will be able to sell the conference games but the games against made up schools at the beginning of the year probably aren't going to sell out.

And the AD is better off selling season tickets. I'm sure if Jamie had the option he wouldn't hold ANY back for single game tickets. More season tickets sold = better for him. He loses on the big games but is significantly better off for most non-conference games and week night conference games.

Lastly, you are really undercutting what student fees contribute to the AD budget. Don't crap where you eat applies here. No one is taking issue with the athletics fee right now. You don't want to make it an issue so you leave it alone.

I think they did go up to $150 last year and I imagine they'll continue to go up since the demand is definitely there. I won't be the least bit surprised if 5 years from now $200 season tickets and a $100 donation are basically requirements to get a seat in Hilton.
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Thanks for the correction you are right. At 8 bucks per game. I still feel like its crazy cheap. I would dont mind small increases like they have done the last few years, especially when demand is high and product is so good.
 
They need to dump the all sports package and force you to elect into everything so people can't just hit "All Sports" and get basketball tickets they don't use.

MBB tickets: $125
FB tickets: $125

Your student ID will be scanned for admission to other events. If you're a current student you get in free.
 
Al_4_State said:
What a bunch of *******. You have all week to study. Also: a hangover? Get of bed, make a Bloody Mary or 5, and rub some ******* dirt on it. You're in college. The best way to kill a hangover, in the short term, is to lay back into the booze immediately.
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Students these days are pansies. If they have to expend too much effort to do something they would rather sit at home and tweet.

Camping out for KU and Iowa games is hip and trendy. Otherwise they wouldn't do that either.
 
IcSyU said:
They need to dump the all sports package and force you to elect into everything so people can't just hit "All Sports" and get basketball tickets they don't use.

MBB tickets: $125
FB tickets: $125

Your student ID will be scanned for admission to other events. If you're a current student you get in free.
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You can buy only football tickets but you can't buy only basketball tickets I believe. It is basically used to increase student attendance for football. So while I tend to agree with you basketball wise I don't think that would be a perfect solution.
 
A-town Cy said:
Chris Allen & Scott Christopherson's senior day vs Baylor in 2012 they did this.
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I bought some of those and I ended up getting season tickets the next year. Not the sole reason, but it got me into an exciting game that helped entice me to purchase season tickets.
 
ajk4st8 said:
Another solution for the WVU/OSU games would be to sell about 300 tickets to the general public as general admission to the student section.

This has been done during the McDoormat Era.
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Next year, why not sell 500 general admission season tickets to the public to share with the balcony student section, perhaps excluding the KU game?
 
My two cents. Football games are an all day party. (Kids like that) Basketball not an all day party. PJ needs to use the upper section better. Lots of kids arn't interested in joining the weirdness that is the front row camp out crew that Cyclone Ally now is. Go back to vouchers and things for the upper section to get it filled with a mix of students and general admits. This is a JP problem not a student problem. Not every college kid is a die hard hoops fan. Things like girls (very few in cyclone ally), beer, school, etc. Will probably trump cyclone ally and basketball every day of the week.
 
I don't think the number of games attended per season ticket holder has dropped that significantly this season. I think the biggest problem is that when students don't go to a game they don't sell their ticket to someone. Loading games on to our ISU IDs was a stupid idea. There are countess people who are too lazy to sell their ticket. You have to use the crappy ticketmaster website to transfer or print your ticket, which you get charged $2 for. That doesn't sound like a lot of money, but it adds the extra pain of adding a credit card to the website. With paper tickets all you had to do is grab your ticket and do an old fashioned cash transaction. I know a lot of people who are just lending their IDs to other people for the game just to avoid the process. We need to go back to paper tickets.
 
IcSyU said:
No one disagrees with this.

However, what incentive does the AD have to go through more work to sell the tickets for a small price when they can sell them multiple times and get $175 for each seat in the section?

I know in the past people have used the argument that "They're my tickets, I can do with them what I want" when it comes to poor attendance in the early year games. How is that any different from students? You can't have it both ways.

For the early year games I'd love to sit in the seats in a donor section in the lower level. If Jamie would just sell those for $25 since someone bought the ticket but didn't use it I would do that for the non-conference games.
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They used to let us move into the lower sections halfway through the first half for non con games, but apparently the folks that actually WERE there got upset when the upper-deck riff-raff were allowed to sit in seats next to the ones they paid mega bucks to occupy. I can kind of see their point, but to me, they should be mad at the people that don't show up to occupy those seats until we are in the "good" part of the season. So they limited it to moving into the Cyclone alley seats during break, but now they are selling the break seats as single game tickets, so that doesn't happen either. We moved down once; I found I like our corner cheap seats better. I have a good angle up there...down below I missed seeing a lot of the action because of taller people. :)
 
It's pretty ridiculous how few students actually show up for basketball games. Only five years ago, when I was in school we had to deal with Wayne Morgan and Greg McDoormat as our coaches and were awful. I still remember that before we played any ranked team, whether it was a weekend or weeknight game, me and a group of people would always wait in line an hour or two before Hilton opened just to run as fast as humanly possible once the gates opened to get front row seats and 100-200 other people doing the same thing. A lot of other students at the time did it, too. Almost all games, no matter who the opponent was, would be full in the student section.

Now we have a great program that's exciting to watch and students can't fill the upper balcony? What a joke! I wish I was lucky enough, like all of the current students are, to have the program that we have now while I was in school.
 
How about two tiers for students in CA? First a guaranteed Student seat if you pay more for CA and then the general grandstand lower ticket price for the season where you stand in line.
 
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