We didn't lose because of the missed block/charge call
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It wasnt a blown call, it was a bang bang play and an incredibly difficult call to make in the moment. The interview with the head of referee's even said it wasnt 100% clear one way or the other and that is with having the advantage of slow mo replay.
No one here is mentioning the 2-3 garbage fouls that were falsely called on OSU when rebounding in the last 7 minutes of the game. Take those turrible foul calls away and OSU never wouldve let their 10 point lead dwindle away.
OSU is the better team, and that one bang bang call did not "screw" the cyclones, regardless I'm sure cyclone fans will be crying about this for the next decade, just like with the MSU loss. Wah, wah, get over it
I smell a Hawk Troll.
I'd be glad to hear an educated opinion on the banged knee from someone with the game recorded.
The replay on the last out of bounds was really really clear TrollHawk! Who are you a homer of?
In my opinion ... more time is better than less. The point is, people who respond with comments like "well there were bad calls earlier in the game, this wasn't the only one" --- and I'm looking at you Greg Anthony, you idiot --- completely miss the point. Of course there is no specific time cut for when a bad call changes a game and when it doesn't.
This is so true. That's a rule I hope they modify some before next year.
Let's say the play we're all talking about happens in the first half at some point. In the second half instead of this occuring, we miss a layup or give up an easy backdoor cut. Then what? Do we say this play cost us the game? I would hope not. The fact is there are numerous "mini-turning points" throughout the game in all sports. The key is do you or the opponent take advantage of it? For example, you go for it on 4th an 1 from your 45 with 10 seconds left in the half. You don't get it, and you set up a FG or TD opportunity for your opponent. They either score the points or they don't. You can make a similar-type statement in the any sport.
The point is the blown call was one of these points and it came at an absolutely critical juncture in the game. Did OSU take advantage of it? Well they hit 1 FT until their last 3. But, bigger it took away 2 and possibly 3 points from us. You can look at other plays down the stretch as some of you pointed out - the missed rebound opportunity giving OSU that final possesison. The turnover on the screen and roll prior to that.
The point being you have to take advantage of these opportunities when you have the chance. We needed to bounce back and get that layup and get that board, but did not. But when we forced Craft into 2 consecutive turnovers late in the 2nd half, we did take advantage of these.
Can you ever truly say that 1 single call won or lost a game for a team? I really don't think so, but the timing and point of the game sure make it much more crucial to the outcome than if it would have occured in the first half.
This guy was a joke. He kept saying ... "the official was in the right position and they did their best, that's all we can ask."
Really? Doing your best is all we can ask? How about competence? Is that too much to ask for?
But as I said earlier, I thought overall the game was called really well, called like the game should be but rarely is called anymore.
If you want to go back on calls how about when Bubu was mugged in the open court? Body and arm contact all over leading to an OSU layup? I don't agree with you on the rebounding fouls. I do think up to the last two minutes the officials called a reasonable game within the realms of human error. The last two minutes they basically called every call for OSU and determined the outcome.
Oh for Pete's sake some of you guys are impossible to please. This 10 seed took a 2 seed to the wire, a team who is one of the best defensive teams in the nation and a couple of mistakes means they are not mentally tough. There was a team out there with higher rated recruits and a higher rated team who kind of wanted it too. Yes, they lost but crying about the team being "not mentally tough" every time they don't quite get a huge upset is ridiculous.
Still a chicken **** analysis. Leave the guys alone. They played a hell of game.
Its an easy analysis. This team had a pattern of doing it all season. They had a hell of a season, and I'm bummed its over, but its hard to ignore the fact that there were about 5 games this season where they did not have the mental toughness down the stretch to close the game out.
And don't forget they never change those calls. I think anything that involve a line should be reviewable. That's cut and dried stuff. If you can review 2 vs. 3, you should be able to review that.
It's a different game at that point up by 4 points and osu really gets tight has to jack three's it's huge and the talk of the day in college basketball. ISU got the game taken from them too bad worse call in the whole tourney so far.
C'mon man...I'll give you that there were some games they gave away but these guys just needed some breaks to go their way some of the time as well...examples--
1) a banked in 3 at KU to force OT...nothing to do with mental toughness, just bad luck
2) questionable calls against KU at home...you telling me Niang was mentally tough when he tried to draw the charge? How about a call going their way when it counts?
3) today, some questionable calls and then a guy who was 4 for his last 20 makes a 3 to win
Did they have some mental lapses at times? Sure...but to come back from 13 down to even have a chance is not a sign of a lack of mental toughness...and to do it without their best defender and 2nd best 3 point shooter out of the game?
They catch one break at the end of this game and they probably win...like the ball being called off the OSU guy on that last rebound, or Craft being called for the block...or Craft missing that 3 at the end and you'd probably be saying how their mental toughness won the game...if they had won...
You should really give the players more credit then that...
Quick Jamie. Dump FH anf sign this guy up. He has all the answers and would clearly do a better job. NOT!
Do you know anything about basketball??? It was a huge blown call and affected the outcome of the game... 4 point lead is huge at that point. and Deshaun Thomas hit the ball out Ejims hands on the rebound with 29 seconds. I credit Craft with making the three but that should have been to tie the game. wake up dude!! All of america is crying foul and saying it was a blown call... oh you must be right bitter hawk fans enjoying your NIT!
Exactly. I blame the NCAA too. I don't like the idea that low seeds get to play virtual home games. It's not just the crowd being behind OSU, I firmly believe the crowd influenced that call. it was such an atrocious call, not a close call at all, that I can come to no other conclusion.