Good catch- just talking about the style of game Fred employs compared to the Princeton offense that carmody runs at northwestern. About as different as you can get,given Fred's keeping with pro-style offense next year as well.Is that opinion based on all of the times you've seen the 2014-15 Clones play?
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A couple of things:
1. We heard this with that rat Uthoff last year, so I'm not going to believe anything until I see it.
2. Right now we do not have a scholarship for next year which is when a transfer would have to be under scholarship.
3. I wish Kale had picked Iowa STate the first time.
I may not know enough about the Princeton offense, but it seems to me much of it is the same. They use motion, multiple picks, quick passing and spacing to get the shot they want - in this case a layup; while Fred's NBA style offense uses motion, picks, quick passing and spacing to get the shot they want - in this case a trey. On the surface very different but at it's core, very much the same.
EDIT: Also in both offenses all five players are much more interchangeable than in many standard offenses.
If I'm all wet on that, please educate me further on the Princeton offense.
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No, you can say you don't trust the coaching staff. You think every fan base trusts their coaching staff? And that's why it does add to the conversation. It speaks to how the fan base feels about the coach. Implicit in the response "I trust Fred", I think, is the idea that maybe we don't really know why Fred wants a certain player, or what he would see in him. But just because we can't see why he wants a certain player doesn't mean we are going to poo poo it out of hand. or result to pure speculation.
In my post where I said I trust Fred, it was following the comment that I think we will be getting awfully crowded at shooting guard. Honestly I can't say why he would want him from what I have read, who we have coming in, and who we are pursuing. But it doesn't mean I'm going to lose my **** over it IF he does ever come here. Many feel the same way, and their responses are relevant because it speaks to how we feel about the coaching staff.
Saying "I trust Fred" is saying that he knows more about who/what he wants on his basketball team than anonymous posters on a message board. Evidently there are posters who don't trust Fred and/or think they know more about what he wants than he does.
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It still doesn't say anything.
Just because he does know that doesn't mean there aren't questions to ask or discussions worth having. It's a cop out statement.
I don't think he'd be bad, but I think we can do better. In a larger class like this previous one no problem. But with with Jucos it's even now and I think we can bring in 3 better high school recruits.
I'll take getting to the tournament! In addition to great athletes, we need some players that just have that knack of playing the game. Before the freshman wall, Georges was that. And he will be again. For the last decade, we have good athletes, but for whatever reason they just don't win games. I don't know if it is just me, but we seem to run so many great plays, or we take it to the hoop, but just cannot finish. Year after year. A couple examples from the Texas game were Will not scoring on the perfect alley oop when we were up 17-9. He scores, we go up 10. Texas might quit. Instead, they go on a run.
Then late in the game, Melvin makes a great move, but when he is wide open gets his shot blocked from behind. If he had just taken a dribble and used the rim as a shield, like we are taught in high school, he gets an easy lay-in from the left side. This in no way is a criticism of ME. He is awesome, and has made great strides. 2 years ago, he couldn't catch a pass. Now he takes it to the hoop effectively. He will be huge next year.
We just need some guys that make the easy play all the time.
If you get the chance to see Northwestern play on the Big ten channel, watch a little bit and see what you think. It's alot more deliberate offense with alot of screening and backdoor cutting,lulling the opposing team to sleep. Earlier years games with them resulted in alot of below 50 point scoring totals. They do adapt with the players they have to run it, but not a big fan of this style. Boring but some what effective against superior opponents.
Seen him play several times for Northwestern. Very mediocre player, looked very slow on the court and that was with comparison to a bunch of other slow guys on Northwestern's team. Do not want unless he's coming in here for free (walk on, no earning of scholarship).
Would you guys rather him go to Iowa and then end up scoring 15 points a game for them? I'm not saying he'll do that, but give the kid a chance.
If we thought he was a 15 ppg guy this would be a no-brainer. Iowa does not factor into this discussion.
I'm just saying, I think he's worth taking a shot on. He was pretty highly recruited out of high school and he's only a Freshman.