I think maybe the best way to put it is expect:
1. Every recruiting class to play in a bowl at least as many times as they don't, and
2. Every player to play on at least one 8+ win team before graduating.
What are your ISU Football W-L Expectations now?
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I think maybe the best way to put it is expect:
1. Every recruiting class to play in a bowl at least as many times as they don't, and
2. Every player to play on at least one 8+ win team before graduating.
Once upon a time (1994?), my son and I witnessed Iowa State play Rice on a dreary October day. Rice was having a bad year (as usual) and they still thumped us in front of probably 20,000 fans (or so) at Cyclone Stadium.
I decided right there, that if we ever became competitive to the degree that I thought we could win any game we played, I would never complain about coaching decisions, player mistakes, outcomes, wins/losses, etc.
We are there and I am happy.
edited to add: ... and knowing that the hawks are wringing their collective hands in obvious anxiety is the icing on the cake. I'm sorry I feel that way, but I can't help it. I've dealt with too much verbal crap from them for far too long.
I decided right there, that if we ever became competitive to the degree that I thought we could win any game we played, I would never complain about coaching decisions, player mistakes, outcomes, wins/losses, etc.
We are there and I am happy.
edited to add: ... and knowing that the hawks are wringing their collective hands in obvious anxiety is the icing on the cake. I'm sorry I feel that way, but I can't help it. I've dealt with too much verbal crap from them for far too long.
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I think I remember seeing that game on TV, being played on the old school astro-turf carpeted field. I was young enough that I hadn't even cared about football in the least yet, but still knew that they shouldn't have been losing to freaking Rice that day.
Could have been a game earlier in the 90's that I'm thinking of, though.
I like to think we have realistic expectations.
1. Beat UNI 99 times out of 100.
2. Beat IA 51 times out of 100.
win 99% of the games we are favored in which is not many.
Continue upward progression beat a few teams that were not supposed to win. I expect energy and continual upgrade in on field talent. As far as bowls go we should compete for bowls every year especially if we get to an 8 game conference schedule. I'm good with the bowls in (NY) Insight, Independence etc and would like to compete for an Alamo bowl every 5-6 years maybe a BCS bowl every 10? if we don't make a bcs no problem. Good teams with good charicter good support.
1. Beat UNI 99 times out of 100.
2. Beat IA 51 times out of 100.
win 99% of the games we are favored in which is not many.
Continue upward progression beat a few teams that were not supposed to win. I expect energy and continual upgrade in on field talent. As far as bowls go we should compete for bowls every year especially if we get to an 8 game conference schedule. I'm good with the bowls in (NY) Insight, Independence etc and would like to compete for an Alamo bowl every 5-6 years maybe a BCS bowl every 10? if we don't make a bcs no problem. Good teams with good charicter good support.
Haven't been able to find sum totals by schools, but the USA Today does break it down individually here (head coaches there as well): Salary analysis of 2010 Football Bowl Subdivision coaches - USATODAY.com
You can also sort it and manually add things up which I did below (all teams have 9 asst's; bonuses were not included in my numbers and those vary widely from 0 to six figures sometimes).
Iowa State Big 12 Wally Burnham 300,000
Iowa State Big 12 Tom Herman 300,000
Iowa State Big 12 Bill Bleil 150,000
Iowa State Big 12 Bobby Elliott* 150,000
Iowa State Big 12 Curtis Bray 120,000
Iowa State Big 12 Courtney Mess. 120,000
Iowa State Big 12 Kenith Pope 120,000
Iowa State Big 12 Shane Burnham 100,000
Iowa State Big 12 Luke Wells 100,000
ISU Total: $1.46 million (Iowa's total is $1.65 million)
Baylor is unknown (had one guy at $336,000/yr)
Kansas: $1.95 million
K-State: $1.56 million
Mizzou: $2.07 million
OU: $2.65 million
Okie State: $2.54 million
Texas: $3.02 million
A&M: $1.67 million
Tech: $1.96 million
So as of 2010, we were in the basement, but I'd imagine that will change with Rhoads's new contract...
I agree that winning 10+ games a year is a pipedream. But K-State has pretty much the same disadvantages as we do. We just need our Bill Snyder to take us to bowl games nearly every year and build on that. I think there is no doubt Paul Rhoads cna be that man.
My thoughts are that you're troll and pretty soon (if not already) there will be a thread on your lame *** website about what a joke ISU fans low expectations are for W-Ls.
How's that Big XII death clock ticking Jon?
Nice job by the hawks going 0-fer vs. UNL and ISU this year. Get used to it.
A&M is a better "program" in terms of history, size of fanbase, etc than TCU or WVU, but both of those programs would stuff A&M's **** back up it's *** over the past decade or so, in terms of actually playing football.
I'm not sure a new contract changes my expectations. I'd like to thik we can be a consistent bowl participant. Consistently winning 6-8 games with few a 9 or maybe 10 win season every 8-10 years. Oh yea, and continue to cause Iowa fans grief.
I have pretty simple expectations because we are playing in the Big 12 and will always have a top 20 SOS rating.
I want to be competitive in every game we play, with a chance to win if the ball bounces the right way and the games are fun to go to!
We are getting closer and closer to my expectations each year in the last three, and I think it will continue to build.
I want to be competitive in every game we play, with a chance to win if the ball bounces the right way and the games are fun to go to!
We are getting closer and closer to my expectations each year in the last three, and I think it will continue to build.
My thought is Kirk Frenz is overpaid and Iowa is about to become a pimple on ISU's butt.
There you go.
To me this says what KF thinks of his assistants. Talks about going elsewhere to get more $$$, but leaves his assistants at a combined half his salary. Whereas CPR's assistants were making more than him in his old deal and probably close to equal with new one. Once again shows the class of CPR.
In KF's defense he needs all the money he can get to help get his family out of publicly subsidized housing.
kind of depends on how the BIG12 grows or stays put. If we go back to divisions, I think ISU should be around 7 wins / year. If they stay in the round robin, i think it drops to 6. Some years (like in a year or 2) when you have a class of kids play together i think you have to think 9-10 are possible. I think with what CPR is building here, being middle to upper 2/3's of the conference should be consistent and playing in a bowl game 3/4 years should be expected. Then every 4-5 years i think we need to be in position to play in the Alamo or Cotton bowl.
Lets face it the Big 12 is going to be tough to ever have the success that Iowa did in the B1G (2 BCS appearances). But I don't think its out of the question to win enough games to get to play on New Years Day once or twice a decade.
Lets face it the Big 12 is going to be tough to ever have the success that Iowa did in the B1G (2 BCS appearances). But I don't think its out of the question to win enough games to get to play on New Years Day once or twice a decade.
Yeah, in 2010 our SOS was ranked as 1 or 2, depending on which publication. So yeah, like 2010. I dont actually remember the 09 or 08 SOS ranking, sure its not much worse than U of I's.