Re: Lawboy from the Cougar Board
hhmmm... I was too busy today to monitor FlightAware, so I don't know.
***OFFICIAL BIG12 EXPANSION THREAD***
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Agreed. I would guess up to 50% of what A&M is forfeiting. At least that's what I would ask for if I was them. The remaining 9 deserve a piece for putting up with A&M's raging inferiority complex.
Seeing as it isn't really a fee so much as withholding the money they earned in tv revenue...i would say all of the tv renue part... not the whole thing...can't remember the breakdown but part was tv rev other was? I dunno where i'm going with this.
Re: BYU trivia
As far as I can determine, if BYU were to join the Big 12, we would be be up on them (in football) 4-0 all time. We played them in 1968, 1969, 1973 and 1974. I was at all of the games. At that time, I'm sure, we scheduled them as patsie non-conference games that we could win. It didn't help because the best that we did in any of those years was 4-7.
Iowa State Historical Scores
As far as I can determine, if BYU were to join the Big 12, we would be be up on them (in football) 4-0 all time. We played them in 1968, 1969, 1973 and 1974. I was at all of the games. At that time, I'm sure, we scheduled them as patsie non-conference games that we could win. It didn't help because the best that we did in any of those years was 4-7.
Iowa State Historical Scores
Not Bad... but I wouldn't stop with 1.
I have and will continue to believe the Big XII will have to go back to 12 eventually for the Conference Championship and continued AQ status (which won't leave unless Texas and OU do). THE Conference Championship will be part of the AQ system to the eventual 8 or so teams in the eventual playoff system. My choices addresses the football need, but I also used Men's BB as a factor. I am going vertical... 1st 3 to say yes say hello to the BIG XII (with 12)!
1. ND - replaces the National titles Nebraska took to the B1G, probably won't happen... praying may help!
2. BYU - (Will be in soon) the only team not named Notre Dame and not from a AQ conference to win a National Title in the last 50 years.
3. Pitt - if anything it will start the dismantling of the AQ conference that should be dismantled.
4. Air Force - can't go wrong with a service academy, a nice geographic replacement for CU and will go well with BYU.
5. Memphis - Big TV market - MBB helps move the Tigers up the list
6. TCU - It is an attractive choice and you hit the Big East again
7. Houston - Not trying to recreate the Southwest Conference, and not excited about 2 new Texas schools.
8. Boise State - Idaho is Not Salt Lake City, but a solid choice.
9. New Mexico - could mean the Mayor can start treating Alfraud like his whipping boy and would be guaranteed wins for awhile in FB
10.... etc. Wyoming - Why not???
then I suppose hit the other former SWC teams SMU (we know they would come) Rice, whatever, if we get this far down the list the Big XII will be in trouble.
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Why to save the Big XII before the Super Conference (idiotic idea) destroys it...
In the last 20 years there have been 23 teams identified as National Champions in Football
(3 years had 2 teams prior to BCS)
SEC - 9
Auburn: 2010
Alabama: 2009 - 1992
Florida: 2008 - 2006 - 1996
LSU: 2007 - 2003 (s)
Tennessee: 1998
Big XII - 5
Texas: 2005
Nebraska: 1997 (s) - 1995 - 1994
Oklahoma: 2000
Pac 10 - 3
USC: 2004 - 2003 (s)
Washington: 1991 (s)
Big 10 - 2
Ohio State: 2002
Michigan: 1997 (s)
ACC - 2
Florida State: 1999 - 1993
Big East - 2
Miami: 2001 - 1991 (s)
In the last 50 years only 1 school not named Notre Dame and not a member of a BCS Conference has been crowned National Champions... BYU 1984. In those 50 years several titles were shared, but this is the breakdown by current conference alignment:
SEC - 17
(Bama 8 - Florida 3 - LSU 2 - Auburn 1 - Tennessee 1 - Georgia 1 - Arkansas 1)
Big 10 - 14
(Nebraska 5 - Ohio State 4 - Penn State 2 - Michigan State 2 - Michigan 1)
ACC - 9
(Miami 5 - Florida State 2 - Georgia Tech 1 - Clemson 1)
Pac 10 - 9
(USC 7 - Wash 1 - Colorado 1)
Big XII - 8
(Oklahoma 4 - Texas 4)
ND - 5
Big East - 1
(Pitt 1)
BYU - 1
MY ABOVE PIPE DREAM would add 7 National Championships to the Big XII, putting us back in 2nd place and ahead of the B1G!
In the last 20 years there have been 23 teams identified as National Champions in Football
(3 years had 2 teams prior to BCS)
SEC - 9
Auburn: 2010
Alabama: 2009 - 1992
Florida: 2008 - 2006 - 1996
LSU: 2007 - 2003 (s)
Tennessee: 1998
Big XII - 5
Texas: 2005
Nebraska: 1997 (s) - 1995 - 1994
Oklahoma: 2000
Pac 10 - 3
USC: 2004 - 2003 (s)
Washington: 1991 (s)
Big 10 - 2
Ohio State: 2002
Michigan: 1997 (s)
ACC - 2
Florida State: 1999 - 1993
Big East - 2
Miami: 2001 - 1991 (s)
In the last 50 years only 1 school not named Notre Dame and not a member of a BCS Conference has been crowned National Champions... BYU 1984. In those 50 years several titles were shared, but this is the breakdown by current conference alignment:
SEC - 17
(Bama 8 - Florida 3 - LSU 2 - Auburn 1 - Tennessee 1 - Georgia 1 - Arkansas 1)
Big 10 - 14
(Nebraska 5 - Ohio State 4 - Penn State 2 - Michigan State 2 - Michigan 1)
ACC - 9
(Miami 5 - Florida State 2 - Georgia Tech 1 - Clemson 1)
Pac 10 - 9
(USC 7 - Wash 1 - Colorado 1)
Big XII - 8
(Oklahoma 4 - Texas 4)
ND - 5
Big East - 1
(Pitt 1)
BYU - 1
MY ABOVE PIPE DREAM would add 7 National Championships to the Big XII, putting us back in 2nd place and ahead of the B1G!
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A really solid team no one has mentioned, Boise State. I realize they are a glorified juco, but since when has that mattered?
Because Boise St would be at about the level of KU in terms of football quality when they were no longer allowed to use partial qualifiers. Then how would they fill their 30,000 stadium on a weekly basis?
Another reason why we need to hurry up on a replacement is Fox isn't going to pay us 90 million to split between 9 schools. There is a clause in the contract that says deal is terminated if the Big XII falls below 10 teams but they have said they wouldn't terminate it if we can find a viable replacement.
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I'd look at Louisville, Memphis, Cincinatti. If the superconferences form, it gives us the ability to split divisions East/West. Adds some football and a lot of basketball strength. No more Texas teams (3 is plenty for Texas exposure), especially no SMU.
Good call, if we add 3 I would agree with you and put Louisville and Cincy on my list ahead of TCU, Solid recent football history, interesting geography. It isn't ND, Pitt, and BYU.... but it sure the heck isn't TCU, Houston, and SMU
Not only would it be an asset for the football in the Big 12, but the basketball as well. I would love getting the chance to heckle Pitino in Hilton.
Are you serious? No one has mentioned them because no school in their right mind would leave the Big 10 for the Big XII.