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All discussion ends with Zion not being a very good basketball player right now. Who's to blame could be debated forever.
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All discussion ends with Zion not being a very good basketball player right now. Who's to blame could be debated forever.
I try to force them out of my memory, but sometimes I have flashbacks.
Maybe, but Lard specifically, if that's partially what you're referring to, was given all the help Steve could possibly afford to give.
I actually know that Zion had a tough time committing extra hours during this season to getting better. I'm not putting blame on him either because he's one of many guys who goes through some sort of tough time while playing collegiately. So many factors could go into why he wasn't, but that's just what I was told.
If you don't put the blame on Zion for not putting in the extra hours during the season, then who is to blame? I think that's totally on Zion.
Yes. At this level, they're not going to do a lot of tweaking to your shot. Maybe give a few basic pointers, which we saw often after Zion missed a shot. You could see teammates and coaches tell him to not push the ball. After that, it's up to the player to make small adjustments and hammer them into muscle memory through repetition.
Naz developed his shot through repetition. Thomas always had a pure stroke. Morris was a solid shooter, but nothing spectacular. His shot never really changed. Shooting instruction is rare. What you come to college with is what you leave with, for the most part.
Either you have bucket getters or you don't. This team had very few, but it's not because we lacked some magic shooting coach. It's because they weren't good shooters when they came to Ames, and they didn't develop good shooting habits on their own.
That's not to absolve Prohm and staff. They recruited these guys, and they either poorly evaluated them or failed to unlock the potential they saw in them.
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I wasn't trying to attack him or anything. Many collegiate athletes, like him, don't put in the extra work needed to excel. Maybe the fit wasn't right here. Maybe he was struggling in the classroom. Maybe he couldn't see his progress and therefore stopped trying. No idea. Him leaving is what's best for him and I hope he goes some place comfortable enough where he can get the most out of himself.
Get this guy in the right fit, maybe somewhere closer to home, and at a level where his athleticism can really stand out. Loyola-IL, Valparaiso, Illinois State etc. Would't complain if he stayed in state and went to UNI or Drake, but that doesn't seem likely.
His straight elbow was so exaggerated, it might've looked a little off, but his mechanics were very good.
I believe Drake might have been one of the first to offer him in HS
Who refuses to have expectations for him? Can you cite examples of these folks saying that there should be no expectations?
job #1 for prohm, is that he's got to find a way to teach defense. zion had no hope of contributing offensively, because he was so freaking horrible defensively you couldn't even keep him in the game for longer than a few minutes. same with lewis, and others.
I was hoping he'd work out but I'm not shocked. I was a little concerned when we were recruiting him when he was in high school and they said he had always been a post player but in some tournaments he was hitting 3's and all of a sudden he got rated a 3 star. Anyway, best of luck to him and I hope he has a good college bball experience, gets his degree and gets a good job.
That's why he needs to get an assistant that can develop big guys. He needs to shake up the staff.
I'm not a Prohm supporter but Zion's lack of development was because of Zion
Look, while we all love and wanted Coach Prohm to succeed, this league isn’t just for him. 5yrs being ranked in the top 5, we are garbage and you think this is just bad luck? No it’s not, it’s having a good coach coaching a wrong school. Prohm is a mid major league coach that can develop a nobody player into a lottery pick that ends up being a bust. ISU basketball needs a coach with a vision. I don’t want to say Prohm can’t develop players, but it’s just not working out here. Let’s not force things.
How? Lewis has not developed either, Wiggington went downhill, Monte was monte and was born with it. No need for coaching, but Prohm has everything to be blamed for with the direction this program is going and it boils down to player recruitment, development and coaching. I saw what a burst when for example he would call timeouts during the Purdue game after we started to drop them 3s. I couldn’t believe it and I gave up on this coach that night.
People rework their shot all the time in the pros even. Saying it's too late to fix a shot cause they are in college is just wrong.
You don't even have to be close to the program to know why Lewis and Griffin didn't develop. There's multiple instances of players who developed under Prohm including Monte but that's not the point here
These guys get a lot of hot air blown up their dirt chutes while being recruited. Then after arriving, they face the brutal facts of academics, grueling practices, teammates taking them to school, tough coaching, and so on. Many can't handle the realities while longing for more positive attention. So, they leave. It happens at every school.