Yellowstone - new TV "western"


If they bring back Malcom Beck that would be interesting. I said it at the end of season 2 we never really saw him definitively die but just assume he died based on the conversation he has with John laying in the field after Malcom was shot and he said he would not make it before a chopper would come. I don't see them bringing that character back as that seems too much of a soap opera kind of move by manipulating a story but I also would not be mad if they did as Neal played such a good villain in season 2. In season 1 we saw them hang Dan Jenkins but we never saw him actually die then find out in season 2 they did cut him down after they took the horse out from under him so it's not too far fetched?
 
I just started watching this and have been binge watching. Unfortunately, I started watching about midway through season 3. Talk about The Godfather meets Big Valley. Here I thought from the outside looking in (before I started watching and just based on previews I saw) that the Duttons were the good guys, but it turns out they're just as evil as everyone else on the show.

What I've missed jumping in at season 3 is why is the ranch is in so much financial difficulty? John Dutton's daughter tells him in one episode that if he doesn't sell part of the ranch for half a billion dollars, he will blow through his money paying just the property taxes in a couple of years. That doesn't seem probable, given the size of the ranch.

Is there anything else I might have missed that might help explain the show a little better? Right now, I'm at the start of season 4, right after the orchestrated attempt to end the Duttons.
 
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I just started watching this and have been binge watching. Unfortunately, I started watching about midway through season 3. Talk about The Godfather meets Big Valley. Here I thought from the outside looking in (before I started watching and just based on previews I saw) that the Duttons were the good guys, but it turns out they're just as evil as everyone else on the show.

What I've missed jumping in at season 3 is why is the ranch in so much financial difficulty? John Dutton's daughter tells him in one episode that if he doesn't sell part of the ranch for half a billion dollars, he will blow through his money paying just the property taxes in a couple of years. That doesn't seem probable, given the size of the ranch.

Is there anything else I might have missed that might help explain the show a little better? Right now, I'm at the start of season 4, right after the orchestrated attempt to end the Duttons.
Probably not
 
I just started watching this and have been binge watching. Unfortunately, I started watching about midway through season 3. Talk about The Godfather meets Big Valley. Here I thought from the outside looking in (before I started watching and just based on previews I saw) that the Duttons were the good guys, but it turns out they're just as evil as everyone else on the show.

What I've missed jumping in at season 3 is why is the ranch in so much financial difficulty? John Dutton's daughter tells him in one episode that if he doesn't sell part of the ranch for half a billion dollars, he will blow through his money paying just the property taxes in a couple of years. That doesn't seem probable, given the size of the ranch.

Is there anything else I might have missed that might help explain the show a little better? Right now, I'm at the start of season 4, right after the orchestrated attempt to end the Duttons.

I feel like you answered your own question here. As property taxes go up on ~700k acres, that's going to be a hefty tax bill.
 
I feel like you answered your own question here. As property taxes go up on ~700k acres, that's going to be a hefty tax bill.
Did the state purposely raise his property taxes to try to wrest the ranch away from him? This pie in the sky scheme of the state's to build an airport and a fancy new development seems wildly unlikely to succeed in as sparsely settled a state as Montana. The population just can't support something like that
 
Did the state purposely raise his property taxes to try to wrest the ranch away from him? This pie in the sky scheme of the state's to build an airport and a fancy new development seems wildly unlikely to succeed in as sparsely settled a state as Montana. The population just can't support something like that
My guess is the new development will raise property values thus increasing his property taxes.

Do you know what tourism is? People flock to sparsely populated places all the time for vacation. See the various ski resorts and national parks.
 
Did the state purposely raise his property taxes to try to wrest the ranch away from him? This pie in the sky scheme of the state's to build an airport and a fancy new development seems wildly unlikely to succeed in as sparsely settled a state as Montana. The population just can't support something like that
The new developments will increase property value and/or tax rate, was the storyline I believe.

It’s still a TV show, so not everything has to be completely rooted in reality but doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.
People travel in droves to Yellowstone (the real one) every year. The Black Hills in SD are popular tourist locations.
 
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I just started watching this and have been binge watching. Unfortunately, I started watching about midway through season 3. Talk about The Godfather meets Big Valley. Here I thought from the outside looking in (before I started watching and just based on previews I saw) that the Duttons were the good guys, but it turns out they're just as evil as everyone else on the show.

What I've missed jumping in at season 3 is why is the ranch in so much financial difficulty? John Dutton's daughter tells him in one episode that if he doesn't sell part of the ranch for half a billion dollars, he will blow through his money paying just the property taxes in a couple of years. That doesn't seem probable, given the size of the ranch.

Is there anything else I might have missed that might help explain the show a little better? Right now, I'm at the start of season 4, right after the orchestrated attempt to end the Duttons.

You really need to start from season 1 to fully understand the story behind the Duttons and their land. If you jumped in at season 3 then you really missed a lot about what is going on. The basic premise is that between the Indian reservation wanting to take back the land their ancestors once lived on and people wanting to develop the land in the area that the Duttons own a large portion of so the Duttons are fighting multiple people to keep what others are trying to take from them. You already missed 2 failed attempts to do this by 2 other villians in the 1st season in Dan Jenkins and the Beck Brothers, the latter really went to some dark extremes trying to force the Duttons hand too. The Duttons aren't broke, they have people wanting to drive them into a financial hole either by developing around them that will raise the property taxes to the point they can't afford them or trying to take the land through eminent domain and basically forcing them to sell it for less than it is worth.

That's not to say the Duttons are entirely innocent in this whole thing too as they play dirty to defend using the power of government offices and doing some illegal things themselves (taking a branded man to the "train station" is something you already missed for example.) It really is one of those series that if you jumped into it mid way through you have missed a ton of story leading up to is because they also sprinkle in some relevant flashbacks of history behind why the characters are who they are today. I think the flashback to how Rip came to the ranch as a boy was in season 2 maybe? it explains a lot about him.

The 1883 prequel that streamed on Paramount plus was probably even better than Yellowstone. It too explains a lot of how the Duttons came to settle on the land and there is another one coming up called 1932 that I'm sure will have some more backstory to tie this all in for those who have been watching the franchise of series so far.
 
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New Season 5 trailer is out! Always have to pause the ends of these frame by frame almost trying to see who is hitting who or get a glimpse of a scene wondering what it is about. The one thing they don't leave any suspense about is that John is the new governor which I guess was a foregone conclusion after last season probably so not a big surprise there.

 
Head of Market Equities, company that is trying to build an airport for a resort development and basically has picked out a spot on the Dutton Ranch they want the airport to go on.
And she has a hard on for Beth since Beth worked for her and sabotaged the plan by tipping off the NY press on what was going on. It is more than business - it is personal. She wants to crush Beth.
 
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1883 may have been even better than Yellowstone. Looking forward to 1932 or whatever the next one is called. Tulsa King drops same day as the new Yellowstone season and this looks good too

 

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