I wanted to live in the dorms forever. We all left our doors wide open and floated from room to room to hang out. When we moved to Frederickson Ct. we started leaving our door open like it was the dorms and eventually others on our floor did too.
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I wanted to live in the dorms forever. We all left our doors wide open and floated from room to room to hang out. When we moved to Frederickson Ct. we started leaving our door open like it was the dorms and eventually others on our floor did too.
A lot of male nudity is my main takeaway
Gang showers are a quick way to meet your fellow floor mates.
Explore any dual enrollment available to him, they are the cheapest credits you can buy. Schools seem to push AP, but you roll the dice on a high test score. My daughter went to college with 29 credit hours that counted for gen Ed’s in English, Math, Spanish, History, etc. She also took a couple CC courses in the summer at home. She used these for flexibility and still went four years but it could also be used to graduate a semester or year early.
CycloneErik
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See, that's the opposite for.me. After class, I eanted to go home, do quiet stuff, read, study and whatever. People running all over or whatever was way too much for me. That junk is exhausting.
Admittedly, I have not read every post in the thread. If I missed your earlier points, I apologize.
Can you admit that we should push CC and trades as hard or harder than 4-year college to every Iowa school aged kid?
Let's also take nursing for an example. I have a really close contact in hospital admin who told me a short while ago that his hospital would pay for most or all of nursing school if a nurse would sign a multi-year contract with them. That seems like a pretty awesome route to use higher education and should be preached to every Iowa high school student.
My kids are too young for this conversation, but I would say that if they are highly committed to and have the academic acumen to study STEM or a high paying end job field of study. Send them to a 4-year school and apply like heck for scholarships. If they don't know what to do yet, I would want my kids to stay home, work/learn a trade and save money. You can still have a full college experiance at 19 or 20 and take 1-2 years of break to mature, learn, or experiment.
My freshman year roommate did not have the academic chops to study at ISU, but was pressured into 2 years at ISU and then suffered with bad grades. He got a job for a couple months doing landscaping and ended up enrolling in turf school at DMACC before landing a really good job, with benefits, paid time off, and much more. I wish society wouldn't pressure us into 4-year college just to have "experiences" and to be "normal" that end up burdening you with tens of thousands in student loans that take you years and years to pay off.
Promote them? Sure. Push them as hard or harder, probably not.
Btw the nursing situation is solely due to the massive nursing shortage so that they can underpay them due to the massive market changes for that position. Nursing school is just undergrad essentially. You would make more not taking the deal and hoping around than the forgiveness in most areas.
Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks for the kind insights here.
I was super introverted (engineering major lol) and living by myself I would never have met hardly anyone or made any friends. Lame-ass dorm activities forced me to get out and meet people and do things. In the end, 2 of my 3 groomsmen I met in the dorms...
My son is much more outgoing (tho also engr major lol again) but several of his floor friends are still quite close with him 10 years on.
That said, it CAN be a bad experience if you get the wrong people on your floor.
I lived on a co-ed floor... maybe my promotion of dorm life is somewhat influenced by that!
If you don’t mind me asking did you make other long term friends/contacts outside of the dorms? As in from classes/clubs/etc or was it something you weren’t particularly interested in?
Iowa has the same system (common course numbering) and I regularly teach chem courses that transfer to all 3 regent institutions.
Lot of these universities have admin that have nothing to do with education or athletics, they are there for other reasons. Universities can save millions every year if these admin departments are removed.
Yikes.
I've definitely run into those students who were thinking 2+2 would work in STEM until they found out that starting at college algebra isn't going to cut it, and they had to spend 2 years in math before they could take an engineering course.
It is hard to beat the small size of lectures at a CC (my biggest courses are ~30 at the moment), and I know all my students on a first name basis within about 6 weeks.
There may be more gifted students at the big schools, but I'll put odds on how hard my students work, and it's not uncommon to see those that transfer successfully to a big institution have a higher rate of completion than those who start at the bigger/more prestigious school.
Community College Transfer Students More Likely to Graduate Than Traditional Students at Selective Colleges - Jack Kent Cooke Foundation
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A guy I used to work with told me about people in FP&M stealing money from ISU and they cleaned house up their, but the investigation is still going on. The guy that I knew was in charge up there was supposed to retire this fall but mysteriously retired last spring. That guy was an ahole anyway. Kind of off topic I know. FP&M has been a **** show for years, lots of wasted money and way to many upper management people that are a waste of space. I don't miss working for ISU.
CycloneErik
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A couple. It's a long story after that. I won't derail for that one.
FWIW, this is nothing new….these articles have been in the Daily and the Rag on and off for at least the last 25 years.The Daily coming through
"This statistic took the percentage of college graduates produced in Iowa against the percentage of college graduates living in Iowa, meaning that Iowa is losing over 34% of the college graduates produced in the state."
The “exodus” of college graduates out of Iowa
Brock Elbert is a graduate of Iowa State University with a bachelor’s degree in genetics. He is Iowa-born and grew up in the small town of Indianola, a town that owns 11 miles of land. Indianola is home to Simpson College, museums and around 15,000 residents. However, Indianola and neighboring...iowastatedaily.com
What I would be interested in knowing are the average demographics / home states of the student body at the state’s big 3 and how many that do leave find their way back once they get a spouse / significant other and/or have a kid.
I don’t think it is any secret that a good portion of the U of I student body is from the greater Chicago area. ISU has good sized alumni bases in Chicago, MSP, and KC.
So while we have 1/3 leave , some are simply returning “home” and some will boomerang back +\- 10 years post graduation.
I don't mind encouraging kids to explore trades if their aptitude fits that path better. You can find a stable field and make a good living.
Caveat is that people forget (or don't realize) that there's another side to the "not all kids are cut out for college" coin. Not all kids are cut out for manual labor/trade type jobs either. Some kids are more cut out to be accountants, engineers, IT, etc.; replacing university education with trade school doesn't make sense for all kids.
Third side to the coin: not all kids are cut of for college, or the trades…