CPR has done better than his predecessors though while Koetter hasn't. My point isn't that CPR is great, but that a coach who was successful at a different place won't ultimately be successful here like some seem to think.
Would you fire Paul Rhoads?
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CPR has done better than his predecessors though while Koetter hasn't. My point isn't that CPR is great, but that a coach who was successful at a different place won't ultimately be successful here like some seem to think.
Damn near lame duck status is now considered having support. Things are that bad.
Again, Koetter not quite having the success in his 6 years as his Hall of Fame predecessor did in the previous 6 means nothing in regards to the mistake in CU's vetting of the Hawkins hire. Asking if Bohl would be Hawkins is just stupid.
Yes, there is risk to any hire. When you are at the level we are, it is very minimal.
We aren't Iowa. Iowa plays in the B1G. We do not.
TCU, K-State, and Baylor are thriving in the BIG XII. Why isn't ISU?
Do you really think ISU would win that many more games playing in the B1G? Maybe a game here or there but they would not be contending for titles as some have inferred. Nebraska has yet to win a title...the year they made the title game they had 70 points hung on em. If it makes you feel better to ignore reality, so be it.
Indiana, purdue, Illinois, northwestern all say yes Iowa State would win more games in the b1g.
I get you are defending your conference, but the simple fact is those 4 teams, plus Minnesota, and of course Iowa are perennially easier games than the round robin schedule we play now.
You can add post Schiano Rutgers to that list as well as Maryland too.
By no means would I predict championships, but we would be playing for a much higher seed in the rotation if we played the b1g West. We would have at least 2 more wins than now, as bad as we are, playing Iowa's schedule
You are the one who is ignoring reality. ISU plays ranked opponents every week and Iowa plays unranked opponents every week. ISU's schedule has been ranked the toughest in the nation while Iowa's schedule has been ranked one of the easiest. But all you see is the surface: 2-6 vs. 6-2.
There's no question that we're among the bottom feeders in the Big 12, but we'd be much higher in the B1G. Firing Rhoads and searching for the next savior isn't the answer.
I watched the KState, Okie St. Game last night and talk about a fundamentally sound team KState is. They are well coached and are in the right position to make plays and they also DO NOT BEAT THEMSELVES. We on the other hand are not fundamentally sound which is the coaching staffs problem. Tackling was horrible yesterday, out of position etc. etc.
I know the injury bug has plagued us yet again this year, but other teams sustain injuries as well, but keep chugging on. We look lost on the field on both sides of the ball and it's bullshitt especially coming off a bye week. Me personally am not satisfied with the results the past two seasons, sorry to expect better and want better for Iowa State, but right now it's ugly.
I know the injury bug has plagued us yet again this year, but other teams sustain injuries as well, but keep chugging on. We look lost on the field on both sides of the ball and it's bullshitt especially coming off a bye week. Me personally am not satisfied with the results the past two seasons, sorry to expect better and want better for Iowa State, but right now it's ugly.
Vortex,
You really misconstrued my post. I basically made two points:
1.ISU does not play in the B1G. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks ISU's record would be. I don't care who Iowa plays. I care about who Iowa State plays because that's all that matters. How does Iowa actually fit in to my thought process? ISU played Iowa. ISU beat Iowa. That's it. It's one of two victories ISU has in this crapfest of a season.
2.Other non-traditional football programs are having success in the Big XII.
That is also 365 of the 50,000 people who goes to the games. I'm sure there are more 89 people who want Rhodes gone.
I doubt it. We could go 0-12 next year and the apologists would say give him another year, we can't do any better anyways. Might as well give him a lifetime contract and we can watch 3-9 seasons for the next decade
It's a sample plan, I'm sure it is representative of the whole or pretty darn close. Love your statistical knowledge bigdaddykane!
This was my "make-or-break" year for Rhoads. I wanted to see improvement in the offense throughout the year with Mangino. I haven't really seen a marked improvement in the offense compared to last year.
Also, ISU is on track to have the largest average margin of defeat in the Rhoads era.
View attachment ISU Margin of Victory.pdf
Also, ISU is on track to have the largest average margin of defeat in the Rhoads era.
View attachment ISU Margin of Victory.pdf
Bigdaddy, are you sure you're in HS? Something tells me 7th grade. Maybe 8th tops, but in mostly remedial classes.
You fire him after this season unless he wins 3 of the next 4. and here is why: If he wins 2 games this year, and rolls out a 4 or 5 win season next year and misses a bowl, but there is controversy (missed calls, hail mary getting hit)
Your fanbase will be in civil war between "He has us in the right direction" and "Its another losing season".
If he returns in 2016 and rolls out another: 3-4 win season, you're a year behind in a rebuild:
If he goes bowling in 2016, he's coaching through the life of his contract, regardless if the corner is turned or not.
He's had 6 years, his defense is horrible for a defensive minded coach, he talent evaluation/developmental skills suck. You're making 25 million dollars a year now, you've invested in facilities. You'll be in a Power Conference for atleast the next decade, do something with that time. Make a move now.
[video=youtube;R8artJcUSEo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8artJcUSEo[/video]
Your fanbase will be in civil war between "He has us in the right direction" and "Its another losing season".
If he returns in 2016 and rolls out another: 3-4 win season, you're a year behind in a rebuild:
If he goes bowling in 2016, he's coaching through the life of his contract, regardless if the corner is turned or not.
He's had 6 years, his defense is horrible for a defensive minded coach, he talent evaluation/developmental skills suck. You're making 25 million dollars a year now, you've invested in facilities. You'll be in a Power Conference for atleast the next decade, do something with that time. Make a move now.
[video=youtube;R8artJcUSEo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8artJcUSEo[/video]
This is a pretty good perspective.
http://clonesconfidential.com/2014/...edium=Network&utm_campaign=Around the Network
A lot of media pundits, fans of other teams, etc., who don’t follow Iowa State don’t understand why so many fans support Rhoads. It’s because they don’t do their homework and completely forgot the hire of offensive coordinator Mark Mangino and others on the coaching staff.Anybody that wants Rhoads fired means that they want him gone after eight games with his new staff. That’s simply not enough time, but I understand how over-reactionary some fans get when things look incredibly bleak, and they certainly did on Saturday.
The worst pulse to take of the fanbase is talking amongst fans in the tailgate lots who have been drinking since 6:00 AM and witnessed the extremely bad beatdown either on TV or in the stadium. Of course, everyone will be upset or angry.
Ultimately, poor play does go up to the head coach. He’s ultimately responsible for the performance of the team just like lead editors are at newspapers and CEOs are of major corporations. As the season continues to wear the seal of disappointment, Rhoads’ job security continues to slide.
But that doesn’t mean fans banging the drum of the firing of Rhoads have been right. Those fans have been calling for his execution after last season. They called for it after losing to North Dakota State this year. They’re calling for it now. When things get really bad, they get frustrated, and because they can’t explain what’s happening the field, they just want the school to fire Rhoads because, to them, that’s clearly the best and only option.
Because being an Iowa State head football coach is a luxury that many wannabe and experienced head coaches would dream to have. Because Kansas was so right in firing Turner Gill after just two seasons for Charlie Weis, who didn’t even make it to the halfway point this season. They’re a real up-and-coming team after getting blasted 60-14 by Baylor and sit with the same record the Cyclones have.
Again, I can’t tell anyone where to stand at this point because another season is on the brink of failure. I’m just explaining what the situation is and what fans are actually thinking. Most fans know what’s going on and it would be a shock to see Jamie Pollard come down with an axe in the near future.
