WILLIAMS: What's next (potential candidates)
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Didn't read whole thread, these things can start getting long if you don't read them right away as they develop but a question on Tony alford.
He was on dmacs squad when he was fired. Dmac had two major issues. 1) he wouldn't ship cotton down the road, 2) the bigger with alford, his line recruiting was horrendous his last 3-4 years. This would be the time that alford was here. Mac had players for the defense, but the offense was slim in several positions. Alford was on the offensive side right? Did we have an area of the US he did well in? Recruiting to ohio state is a little easier than isu. I'm not seeing the good recruits from his time at isu, so why do they say he's a great recruiter?
He was on dmacs squad when he was fired. Dmac had two major issues. 1) he wouldn't ship cotton down the road, 2) the bigger with alford, his line recruiting was horrendous his last 3-4 years. This would be the time that alford was here. Mac had players for the defense, but the offense was slim in several positions. Alford was on the offensive side right? Did we have an area of the US he did well in? Recruiting to ohio state is a little easier than isu. I'm not seeing the good recruits from his time at isu, so why do they say he's a great recruiter?
It gets him a look at how he has performed at Wyoming. Are they ready to break out next year?
If you wait that long, he'll become the next Fuente or Herman and ISU will have no chance at him. You have to take the chance on these guys a year before they become the super hot commodity that everyone wants.
We all agree with this, but do outside coaches believe it will outweigh the disadvantages? Just watched the ESPN college football show and they were discussing which of the 13 openings were the best jobs. Of course, USC. But they targeted Maryland, Miami, and others because while seemingly high profile, fan support and updated facilities were poor. They never mentioned ISU once and how we DO have upgraded facilities, great fan support, etc. But the 3 things we DON'T have are a futile recruiting ground, winning tradition, and an easy conference or division to compete against. Still we all have hope that a guy can come here and get it done.
I really hope we don't hire anyone running a triple option. As soon as we switch to that we will become the little brother that had to try a gimmick in order to win games. It also wastes the talent that is on this team. We would be set up pretty well for any kind of spread running game or pro style single back sets. I really think the best offense we could run is what we have been doing for the 3 weeks. Maybe try to work in a little more TE and I will be perfect. I will more than likely not watch ISU football if they switch to a gimmick offense...which I really don't want to do.
Prospective coach grading scale:
Paycheck - 60%
Chance to win - 35%
- Recruiting ground
- Tradition
- Facilities
Fan Support - 5%
Why exactly?
He's been a head coach unlike Rhoads, Alford, and Frost. He's been successful. I think there are a lot of good things about him. I don't think he is a gimicky coach.
Because that has worked so well for the past 15 years?
I don't care if the next coach runs QB sneaks 95% of the time if it wins us games. I'll take all of the gimmicks in the world...if it wins.
Also, you don't think we Lanning and Warren a run-heavy offense sets up well? Have you watched the last few games?
I respect your opinion but when someone says those won't watch ISU football because of certain offenses, it makes me wonder.
I think too many people think Willie Fritz is going to be an option coach, but in truth he runs an offense that is best suited for his players. He only ran the option at GS because that was the offense they ran when he got there. I know he hired an OC that run the option when he got there to help teach him it.
i know at Sam Houston state he ran 60/40 run pass spread offense. I think he would run that power spread people want if he went to Iowa state. Yes im not against an option coach but I think no matter what Willie Fritz will want to run a power running offense and I know both sides can agree that wouldn't be half bad.
i know at Sam Houston state he ran 60/40 run pass spread offense. I think he would run that power spread people want if he went to Iowa state. Yes im not against an option coach but I think no matter what Willie Fritz will want to run a power running offense and I know both sides can agree that wouldn't be half bad.
Whether its Fritz or Stitt or somebody else I think this is the most important quality. The ability to be flexible in running a system that fits your teams best talents.
" Up town, down town
Little Willy, Willy drives them wild with his run-around style
Inside, outside
Willy sends them silly with his star-shine shimmy shuffle smile"
Who do we have that would an option QB? Lanning? He's a perfect fit for the power spread, where he is the "extra" guy in the backfield but triple option QB's are typically small, quick guys. That would be wasting his talents, as well as our WR corp, you also need 6 or 7 RB's, saying we have 3 is a stretch. Heck our lineman aren't even suited for that type of an offense. An option coach would be a 100% rebuild, basically throwing away all the young talent we have, with the exception of Warren and Thomas
CycloneErik
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For argument's sake, let's say that a gimmicky thing is what we needed to do to win. Would you rather go gimmicky and win or stay the same and keep losing?