When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

[CascadeClone]

These companies need their heads checked on pricing. This needs to be priced at least $15k cheaper.

2024 Acura ZDX Luxury EV SUV Prices Range from $65,745 to $74,745​

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Feels like a combination of making the car SEEM better due to higher price, combined with trying to match demand w supply.

When you have trouble making in volume, just raise the price a bunch and you will sell less - that takes care of your low supply problem while still raising revenue. And for a double luxury product (Acura AND EV), you are mostly selling to less price sensitive customers anyway.

 

[VTXCyRyD]

We are about 10 months from the start of this thread. How many ev’s have been bought ? How are they running?

I bought one 6 months ago. 0 issues

 

[mramseyISU]

Yeah, non Tesla would be a little challenging in Iowa. If you live in Iowa, I don't see how a 250-300 mile range would be challenging at all. Maybe if you are a gravel road commissioner.

I think it's more of a question of where you live in Iowa. If you live in one of the bigger cities (Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Waterloo or Council Bluffs) and don't leave town a whole lot they're fine. If you're commuting between towns 45 minutes to an hour one way then it's more challenging I think especially if you don't have access to a 5kW charger at home. There needs to be more public chargers in the 30kW range before this really gets to be feasible. EV's are getting to the point where they're really good, even great in some cases but our charging infrastructure in this state is still lagging way behind where it needs to be.

 

[do4CY]

So my boss had the lightning today and took it down to Marshalltown from Waterloo. Not sure what the SOC was when he left but he's currently stranded and sitting at a 6kW charger waiting to get enough range to get back to Waterloo with it.

How long did your boss have to wait and charge? I'm guessing he wasn't getting much better than 1 mile per kwh so thinking he had to wait a while

 

[mramseyISU]

How long did your boss have to wait and charge? I'm guessing he wasn't getting much better than 1 mile per kwh so thinking he had to wait a while

He rolled into the office around 4, I heard about the stranding at something like 10 that morning.

 

[NWICY]

I bought one 6 months ago. 0 issues

Meh I bought a sub $20,000 kia Rio Jan of 23 and have 40,000 miles on it with 0 issues also. Someday I'll probably go electric but most vehicles are pretty trouble free till 100,000 miles.

 

[dmclone]

I think it's more of a question of where you live in Iowa. If you live in one of the bigger cities (Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Waterloo or Council Bluffs) and don't leave town a whole lot they're fine. If you're commuting between towns 45 minutes to an hour one way then it's more challenging I think especially if you don't have access to a 5kW charger at home. There needs to be more public chargers in the 30kW range before this really gets to be feasible. EV's are getting to the point where they're really good, even great in some cases but our charging infrastructure in this state is still lagging way behind where it needs to be.

Yes, each persons use case is unique. I could live in Stout and as long as I had a home charger, I'd be totally fine. I can't remember the last time I drove 200+ miles in Iowa and wasn't near a charging station, but that's just me and like you said, I'm not in rural Iowa. Maybe a good idea would be to track how many days a year you drive 200 miles while in Iowa. For my case, I do this probably 6 times a year and there is only one time where I would have to go out of my way to get to a charger. Of course, this is relying on the Tesla chargers. I agree though, Iowa needs more and more are coming.

 

[BCClone]

Yes, about the same price as mid level BMW 5 series, a mid level Ford Expedition, an Audi A6, A Ford F150 Lariat, etc

Is it a car or SUV/pickup? Don’t think someone who is looking for one would consider the other.

 

[VTXCyRyD]

I think it's more of a question of where you live in Iowa. If you live in one of the bigger cities (Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Waterloo or Council Bluffs) and don't leave town a whole lot they're fine. If you're commuting between towns 45 minutes to an hour one way then it's more challenging I think especially if you don't have access to a 5kW charger at home. There needs to be more public chargers in the 30kW range before this really gets to be feasible. EV's are getting to the point where they're really good, even great in some cases but our charging infrastructure in this state is still lagging way behind where it needs to be.

My commute is a little over 30 miles one way. 45 to 60 miles wouldn't be a challenge at all. I live in a small town. I'm not afraid to drive my electric car anywhere. I've only ever had to use a super charger 2 times, longer road trip and super chargers are everywhere.

You're right that if you can't charge at home it probably doesn't make sense. But you're way off on how far you can go. I dont know why you think people in rural areas shouldn't have an electric car and that they're only for city people.

 

[dmclone]

Is it a car or SUV/pickup? Don’t think someone who is looking for one would consider the other.

It's a car. Probably most similar on my list to a BMW 5 series

 

[VTXCyRyD]

Meh I bought a sub $20,000 kia Rio Jan of 23 and have 40,000 miles on it with 0 issues also. Someday I'll probably go electric but most vehicles are pretty trouble free till 100,000 miles.

But that wasn't the question I replied to. The question was asked about recent electric vehicle purchases.

I doubt you have any issues with your kia. We've had several and they've all been solid.

 

[do4CY]

We are about 10 months from the start of this thread. How many ev’s have been bought ? How are they running?

Have had 1 for a little over 2 weeks. It does have limitations but after figuring out the range, especially when it's colder, it is not a big deal. I wouldn't want one as my only vehicle just yet.
We live in podunk iowa, the closest public charger is 20 miles away but we have no need for one, we just charge it at home. My wife uses it. I think we are averaging about 75 miles per day on it. 120 mile round trip would be about the max in cold weather without having to worry about charging it, it will be about double that when it's above 50.
So far my wife likes it and my son is counting down the days until it becomes "his" next summer. The other day I picked him up and while sitting at a stop sign I hit the sport mode button and hammered it, I was just showing him what not to do when he starts driving.

 

[nrg4isu]

I am as liberal as they come, but I am also practical about it. I think EVs are not quite there yet, probably another 10 years before I would buy one. One problem is that the lithium-ion battery technology doesn't do well in cold temperatures. Sodium ion isn't as good at high temps, but in the cold the two techs are even. I can imagine that in 10 years or so, a practical car company not named "Tesla" that doesn't have an image-seeking asshat CEO might come out with a car with user-replaceable batteries for the cold.

For now, though, I would probably get a hybrid.

The user-replaceable part is huge in my opinion. We're a long way from that, but there's little reason to NOT have this in the future.

 

[dmclone]

The user-replaceable part is huge in my opinion. We're a long way from that, but there's little reason to NOT have this in the future.

Same. I've been waiting the last 100 years for an ICE that's fuel economy didn't suffer in the winter and has an easily swappable engine for winter use/

 

[nrg4isu]

Same. I've been waiting the last 100 years for an ICE that's fuel economy didn't suffer in the winter and has an easily swappable engine for winter use/

Was this sarcasm?

I can't help but feel you mistook my comment. I'm 100% on the BEV bandwagon as it is.

That said, knowing a bit about lithium batteries (I literally have an 18650 on my desk right now that I need to charge), I'm hopeful that manufacturers (and possibly governments) enable the ability to replace individual cells/packs. That should enable recycling on a massive level and also decrease costs greatly.

I have battery electric yard equipment (greenworks). I had my first battery pack go bad and disassembled it (don't do this if you don't know what you're doing). Inside I found 18 18650 cells, all reading ~3v except a single battery which was at 0v. It's a shame to toss an entire battery pack when 1 out of 18 cells is bad. The same sort of thing can happen with car batteries. If it were manufactured in a way to make sections replaceable, there's a lot of benefit.

 

[brokenloginagain]

Just wanted to say this is one of my favorite all-time OT threads on CF - just great information from so many perspectives.

I think once there's more options for 3-row EV SUVs available, as well as some normal depreciation for used cars, EVs sales will pick right back up again.

 

[dmclone]

Was this sarcasm?

I can't help but feel you mistook my comment. I'm 100% on the BEV bandwagon as it is.

That said, knowing a bit about lithium batteries (I literally have an 18650 on my desk right now that I need to charge), I'm hopeful that manufacturers (and possibly governments) enable the ability to replace individual cells/packs. That should enable recycling on a massive level and also decrease costs greatly.

I have battery electric yard equipment (greenworks). I had my first battery pack go bad and disassembled it (don't do this if you don't know what you're doing). Inside I found 18 18650 cells, all reading ~3v except a single battery which was at 0v. It's a shame to toss an entire battery pack when 1 out of 18 cells is bad. The same sort of thing can happen with car batteries. If it were manufactured in a way to make sections replaceable, there's a lot of benefit.

Sorry, I thought you meant complete swappable batteries, which seems pretty nuts in a vehicle.

 

[nrg4isu]

Sorry, I thought you meant complete swappable batteries, which seems pretty nuts in a vehicle.

Yeah, that wouldn't make much sense in a typical vehicle. I could see this for delivery vans/mail trucks etc. though. Build the battery as a "sled" that you can pull out, pop another in. Again, unlikely in the near future, but possible.

E-waste, particularly battery waste and recycling feels to me like the biggest hurdle to making BEV's a near universal vehicle.

 

[Pragmatic_Clone]

We are about 10 months from the start of this thread. How many ev’s have been bought ? How are they running?

I bought mine in April 2023. Love it and have had zero issues. Use it as my commuter car throughout the San Antonio area. It's a Chevy Bolt EUV. Amazed at how much tech and options they packed into my little electric golf cart.

 

[lionnusmb]

Bought mine about 4 months ago. You can read in prior posts about it.

Side note; On that really cold spell, I got a notice when I turned it on after leaving work that the Bolt EUV was limiting power due to the cold. Didn't have any issue with it or feel like I was in need of any power. Also, I don't know when it kicked out of low power mode. Just thought I would add that remark.