When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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I sometimes think most people compare every single model EV price to a base model Toyota Corolla.
That's before getting into fuel cost which where I live is almost the top thing to think about.
I've seen a few Rivian branded charging stations around Tahoe. It's really a pretty common car in the area already.
This is precisely why no one should ever rent an EV unless you know you won't need to worry about charging it. You do have to understand your vehicle and its limitations and potentially plan ahead and when you don't this is exactly what happens.
I'm guessing he likes to leave on long trips with an 1/8th tank of gas in his vehicles too. Marshalltown is only about 70 miles from Waterloo. Was it at 20% when he left?
My Son had and sold his R1 SUV.
He said the new R2 looked good but he would not buy another Rivian until there was a service center close by. Multiple trips to Kansas City from DSM with the R1 convinced him of that.
That's too bad, I don't blame him. Do you think he'd buy another EV in the future?
He sees the EV as a 5-10 year process for Iowa. Great needs for infrastructure and service to support the "new" manufacturers. He also says the current pricing of EV's eliminates a lot of the folks that could really benefit from them.
When I plugged it in to the charger at work yesterday at lunch time it was sitting at 60% I think. I don't know where it was at when he took off this morning though.
Yeah, non Tesla would be a little challenging in Iowa. If you live in Iowa, I don't see how a 250-300 mile range would be challenging at all. Maybe if you are a gravel road commissioner.
Agreed, it appears the auto industry is about to face a reckoning on their pricing- some manufacturers more than others. I feel business leaders in general saw Covid related supply chain issues as carte blanche to raise prices. Don't even get me going on price of Coke/Pepsi!!
I saw a story yesterday on CarEdge.com Jeep's average sales price has gone up 60% since 2018 and over same timeframe sales have decreased by 34%. Up to this point, its a net revenue gain for Jeep over the 5 years, but I bet rising costs have offset revenue growth. I would think auto manufacturers will be in a difficult spot if consumer demand forces prices down as their cost structure has been reset since Covid.
Over that same 5 year period, nominal wages are up around 25%, so a 60% price increase doesn't seem sustainable.
We are about 10 months from the start of this thread. How many ev’s have been bought ? How are they running?
I am as liberal as they come, but I am also practical about it. I think EVs are not quite there yet, probably another 10 years before I would buy one. One problem is that the lithium-ion battery technology doesn't do well in cold temperatures. Sodium ion isn't as good at high temps, but in the cold the two techs are even. I can imagine that in 10 years or so, a practical car company not named "Tesla" that doesn't have an image-seeking asshat CEO might come out with a car with user-replaceable batteries for the cold.
For now, though, I would probably get a hybrid.
For now, though, I would probably get a hybrid.
If you’re a two car household, and ev and a hybrid is the way to go for now. That’s what we have, although we’ve road tripped in the Rivian without issue.
With the Tesla network coming any time now, I simply won’t have to think about it at all.
With the Tesla network coming any time now, I simply won’t have to think about it at all.
8 months in and we're both so happy we bought the Model Y. A few observations:
- I wish I would have talked to actual Tesla owners before buying one. At least 90% of what you hear about EV's is from people who don't own EV's. People hear things on the internet from non EV owners or pick out pieces that they want to hear, and then come to posts like this and repeat. Posts like this made me super nervous about buying an EV and now that we own one, most of the worries have been non-existent.
- We should have from the start looked at how my wife drove her previous cars and said "Would your use case work with an EV?" and the answer would have been 100% yes.
- I'm kind of sad that my Kia Telluride has only 30k miles. When I hit 70K miles or so, I'll be replacing it with an EV. The Telluride is great, best in it's class, zero problems, etc but ICE vehicles just feel so outdated to me now. It will probably take 4 years or so for me to get another 50k miles on the Kia so I should have a lot more options.
- This morning I was thinking about how excited I was that my wife is taking the Kia to the airport for the next 4 days. Now I HAVE to drive the Tesla to work.
- They are not for everyone but if you're on the fence, talk to an actual owner, and go drive one. I've owned 20+ cars in my life. Muscle cars, sports cars, Luxury cars, SUV's. Honda, Acura, Toyota, Lexus, Nissan Infiniti, Chevy, Dodge, BMW,VW,Kia, etc. and this was one of our best purchases.
- Just like when you buy any other car, not all manufacturers are created equal. My experience with a Tesla may be different than someone with a Toyota EV. Also, as each year goes by, the market will just get better and better.
- This whole situation kind of reminds of buying an LG OLED. From owners I kept hearing positives but from non owners I kept hearing "too expensive", "you'll have screen burn in", "I'm happy with my plasma, I'll wait until they mature". 5 years later and it all seems a little silly.
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