Re: Excuses for EIU...part two
How dare you guys trash THE premier conference in the nation! :biglaugh:
How dare you guys trash THE premier conference in the nation! :biglaugh:
What's Their Excuse??
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Re: Excuses for EIU...part two
We should probably move on... But if Iowa goes on to have a 2002 season and we fall flat on our face, then it proves we only get up for the Iowa game. So seriously, I wouldn't care to see Iowa fall flat on their faces and us doing what is predicted out of us which is a 4 win season or so.
I really don't want to see Iowa fun the table. Then it really looks like this was our superbowl.
We should probably move on... But if Iowa goes on to have a 2002 season and we fall flat on our face, then it proves we only get up for the Iowa game. So seriously, I wouldn't care to see Iowa fall flat on their faces and us doing what is predicted out of us which is a 4 win season or so.
I really don't want to see Iowa fun the table. Then it really looks like this was our superbowl.
Re: Excuses for EIU...part two
I promise, If Iowa runs the table, or ends up 10-3 or something, I won't pull the Superbowl argument....
Much :wink:
I keed, I keed.
I promise, If Iowa runs the table, or ends up 10-3 or something, I won't pull the Superbowl argument....
Much :wink:
I keed, I keed.
Re: The newest excuse.
You have identified the real problem, but probably are not perceptive enough to realize it.
Hawk fans keep telling themselves that their is no way that they should have lost to ISU and just can't handle it. There has to be some type of excuse or odd explanation. No way could ISU have just as good of program, coaches, or players as the mighty UofI.
ISU fans know that there is no reason to accept the hawk beliefs as fact. We see the vision that our AD has for the athletic program and the passion that fans demonstrated this past weekend. In these areas, we are actually the one's who can claim superiority to what we have witnessed out of iowa city. ISU fans would also be relunctant to settle for an even swap of coaching staffs at this point in time. When it comes to players, forget press clippings or pre-game mindsets. It comes down to individual matchups or as Coach Chizik said "winning the small victories." No fluke, no lucky bounces, no bad call - ISU won the game.
When you go back and look at the game from this angle, there simply is no clear difference between the 2 squads. Both sides won some battles with ISU having an edge in this matchup. Play again, and Iowa may or may not make a few more plays. Hawk fans who look at the rivalry this way and respect ISU will have my respect. The remaining clueless masses can take a flying leap.
You have identified the real problem, but probably are not perceptive enough to realize it.
Hawk fans keep telling themselves that their is no way that they should have lost to ISU and just can't handle it. There has to be some type of excuse or odd explanation. No way could ISU have just as good of program, coaches, or players as the mighty UofI.
ISU fans know that there is no reason to accept the hawk beliefs as fact. We see the vision that our AD has for the athletic program and the passion that fans demonstrated this past weekend. In these areas, we are actually the one's who can claim superiority to what we have witnessed out of iowa city. ISU fans would also be relunctant to settle for an even swap of coaching staffs at this point in time. When it comes to players, forget press clippings or pre-game mindsets. It comes down to individual matchups or as Coach Chizik said "winning the small victories." No fluke, no lucky bounces, no bad call - ISU won the game.
When you go back and look at the game from this angle, there simply is no clear difference between the 2 squads. Both sides won some battles with ISU having an edge in this matchup. Play again, and Iowa may or may not make a few more plays. Hawk fans who look at the rivalry this way and respect ISU will have my respect. The remaining clueless masses can take a flying leap.
Re: The newest excuse.
Yes, ISU won. However, what makes this inexplicable for anybody outside of the ISU fan base, is the fact that Iowa dominated inferior opponents (Northern Illinois and Syracuse), while ISU was dominated by Kent State and D-IAA Northern Iowa.
Northern Iowa and Kent State are good squads. However, I'm not willing to say that Kent State vs. Syracuse wouldn't be a good game, or Northern Iowa vs. Northern Illinois wouldn't be a good game - they'd be good games.
But the thing is, since those teams are evenly matched, and Iowa dominated them, you'd think they would have come in with the same intensity against ISU - but that didn't happen. Or, you'd think that ISU would come in with a similar intensity against Iowa - but that didn't happen.
ISU beat Iowa - no excuses. It just leaves people scratching their heads, based on the play of the previous two weeks by the two teams.
What will make it even more inexplicable - and this is a big if - if Iowa wins this weekend and ISU loses. Then what would that say about last weekend?
Yes, ISU won. However, what makes this inexplicable for anybody outside of the ISU fan base, is the fact that Iowa dominated inferior opponents (Northern Illinois and Syracuse), while ISU was dominated by Kent State and D-IAA Northern Iowa.
Northern Iowa and Kent State are good squads. However, I'm not willing to say that Kent State vs. Syracuse wouldn't be a good game, or Northern Iowa vs. Northern Illinois wouldn't be a good game - they'd be good games.
But the thing is, since those teams are evenly matched, and Iowa dominated them, you'd think they would have come in with the same intensity against ISU - but that didn't happen. Or, you'd think that ISU would come in with a similar intensity against Iowa - but that didn't happen.
ISU beat Iowa - no excuses. It just leaves people scratching their heads, based on the play of the previous two weeks by the two teams.
What will make it even more inexplicable - and this is a big if - if Iowa wins this weekend and ISU loses. Then what would that say about last weekend?
Re: The newest excuse.
Dagnabit! Now I have to go figure it all out again.
Stinkin' scientists, anyway....:skeptical:
Dagnabit! Now I have to go figure it all out again.
Stinkin' scientists, anyway....:skeptical:
Re: The newest excuse.
God is a Cyclone. And Jamie Pollard is the tool he works through to smite the wicked.
:wink:
God is a Cyclone. And Jamie Pollard is the tool he works through to smite the wicked.
:wink:
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Re: The newest excuse.
I would laugh even more and say.... "Hey we still beat you, and we suck." So I hope we don't lose the game because I really don't want to say that about us.
I would laugh even more and say.... "Hey we still beat you, and we suck." So I hope we don't lose the game because I really don't want to say that about us.
Re: The newest excuse.
I don't know how often you pay attention to college football or any sport or competition for that matter, but the whole "A TEAM DOMINATED B TEAM and B TEAM DOMINATED C TEAM, SO A TEAM WILL SUPER DOMINATE C TEAM," analogy fails miserably all the time. It failed Saturday. It fails every week. Teams that should 50 point opponents will barely scratch out wins and sometimes are even upset. The games are played for a reason.
I don't know how often you pay attention to college football or any sport or competition for that matter, but the whole "A TEAM DOMINATED B TEAM and B TEAM DOMINATED C TEAM, SO A TEAM WILL SUPER DOMINATE C TEAM," analogy fails miserably all the time. It failed Saturday. It fails every week. Teams that should 50 point opponents will barely scratch out wins and sometimes are even upset. The games are played for a reason.
Re: The newest excuse.
I, for one, am not a big fan of trash-talking or being a poor winner, but when a Hawkeye comes onto a Cyclone board and posts nonsense like this I get a little defensive. If U of I had won the past 9 years I could see being shocked that ISU "upset" the Hawks. But ISU has now won 7 or the last 10. I don't consider beating the Hawks to be a huge upset, nor a quality win for the program. It's fun to win a rivalry game, but going into the game both teams were considered to be weak this year. And when Hawkeye fans continue to seem shocked when ISU somehow pulls out a victory, I have to wonder. I think when ISU has won 70% of the games over the past decade you should probably stop considering it an "upset". If your team has a hard time getting motivated to play a team that regularly defeats you most years, then maybe it's time to look at the coachng staff and the team's fortitude.
I, for one, am not a big fan of trash-talking or being a poor winner, but when a Hawkeye comes onto a Cyclone board and posts nonsense like this I get a little defensive. If U of I had won the past 9 years I could see being shocked that ISU "upset" the Hawks. But ISU has now won 7 or the last 10. I don't consider beating the Hawks to be a huge upset, nor a quality win for the program. It's fun to win a rivalry game, but going into the game both teams were considered to be weak this year. And when Hawkeye fans continue to seem shocked when ISU somehow pulls out a victory, I have to wonder. I think when ISU has won 70% of the games over the past decade you should probably stop considering it an "upset". If your team has a hard time getting motivated to play a team that regularly defeats you most years, then maybe it's time to look at the coachng staff and the team's fortitude.
I STILL think we need to stop playing patsies like EIU every year. It doesn't help us prepare for the Big XII season, and noone gives you credit for the "W", as they say, "Who the h*ll is EIU? Play someone who fields a REAL team and THEN you can brag about it!"
OBTW - Wisky=Overrated.
OBTW - Wisky=Overrated.