What needs changing in Ames first?

Ahhhhh Hometown Pizza. Pizza was crap but you couldn't argue with the price or the hours...
 
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Average sale price for a single-family home covering 2,200 square feet, with four bedrooms, two-and-a-half bathrooms, a family room and a two-car garage in a “middle-management communityâ€￾ in cities that are home to Big 12 Conference universities:
1. $536,000 Boulder, Colo. (Colorado)
2. $343,233 Ames, Iowa (Iowa State)
3. $301,456 Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska)
4. $247,450 Lawrence (Kansas)
5. $235,000 Stillwater, Okla. (Oklahoma State)
6. $228,525 Columbia, Mo. (Missouri)
7. $219,954 Austin, Texas (Texas)
8. $204,435 Manhattan (Kansas State)
9. $201,775 College Station, Texas (Texas A&M)
10. $186,249 Norman, Okla. (Oklahoma)
11. $179,475 Waco, Texas (Baylor)
12. $158,225 Lubbock, Texas (Texas Tech)

Where are you getting these numbers? My wife and I have friends that purchased a gorgeous 10 year old home (4BR, 3 bath, two car garage, nice neighborhood, nearly 3000 sq ft) in West Ames last year for $209,000. We have other friends that built a brand new 3BR 2 1/2 bath home with 2 car garage in Ames, and did it for less than $200K. My wife and I also go on the parade of homes, every year, in Ames, and the houses that list for $343,000 are very, very high end. Not even close to the norm.
I would say that those figures are wrong. And not by just a little.
 
Four pages and no mention of a campustown or campus area HOTEL and the (union doesnt count)!? This would pretty much be on the university b/c they own all the land but would love to see theUniversity housing on Lincoln Way between Ash and Gray get tore down or sold and a nice marriott or hilton get put up there. I live in Des Moines but I would love to stay over night for some fb or bb games and bars afterword if there was a campustown hotel!

I'd also stay up if Ames had some cabbies!
 
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Four pages and no mention of a campustown or campus area HOTEL and the (union doesnt count)!? This would pretty much be on the university b/c they own all the land but would love to see theUniversity housing on Lincoln Way between Ash and Gray get tore down or sold and a nice marriott or hilton get put up there. I live in Des Moines but I would love to stay over night for some fb or bb games and bars afterword if there was a campustown hotel!

I'd also stay up if Ames had some cabbies!

Cy Cab doesn't work for you? :wink:

Hotels in Ames would be an interesting concept... I imagine it could be economically viable for a hotle to exist in Ames, though business would be sportatic, I don't know how many people would stay here between sporting events. You could get business from conferences and concerts held at Schemen/Hilton but again thats not terribly reliable unless maybe you work to partner with some groups/events in the area. I suppose VEISHA would be another draw, assuming there isn't any riots

In terms of making it a nicer hotel, well I guess the only people that would actually want to stay in a hotel are alumni or out of town business people anyways so no need to worry about extreme budget accomidations - thehy could also put in a nice ball room or something with hosting wedding receptions in mind (I have some friends being married on campus this summer, and while there are some places that offer reception services it sounds like there is room for improvement near campus)

Interesting suggestion though - certianly not one I'd considered yet (I'm still in the "You can crash at my place tonight" system of hosting people in Ames...)
 
Yes lets try and build a mall that can compete with the biggest mall in Iowa, and bulid it only 40 minutes away in a town that doesn't have nearly the same consumer base!

I hate to take the position of smart growth here but trying to compete with Jordan Creek is stupid. Yes it would be nice to have some more shopping options in Ames, but you will never have the same draw as Des Moines does. Rather than trying to carve away from their market Ames would benefit more from trying to fill markets not met in Des Moines, find some quirkier shops to give the college town more of a college feel, attract shops not found in Jordan Creek, ect. Don't try to compete head to head with it. Then work on advertising said markets to communities in the area, including Des Moines.

Lets face it, people are going to go to Jordan Creek, you cannot stop that. Insted of trying to stop it find something that will bring people to Ames as well, so that the money flows both ways


Or find ways to stem the loss, like make Hilton a venue capable of competing with Wellsfargo again. Lets face it, to a Concert Tour Des Moines is a better market, so our facility has to be something decent to compete with whatever they have there, however crappy it may or may not be

Well then why have most of the major anchor stores in the Jordan Creek Mall shown interest in locating at the proposed Wolford mall?
 
Regarding some of the anti-growth posts.... wasn't the expansion of utilities to the east side of I-35 for the Barilla pasta plant considered a big deal that would allow for future manufacturing in Ames?
For the locals, how is Barilla doing?
 
Regarding some of the anti-growth posts.... wasn't the expansion of utilities to the east side of I-35 for the Barilla pasta plant considered a big deal that would allow for future manufacturing in Ames?
For the locals, how is Barilla doing?

Well the Barilla plat in Ames used to be the only one in America. They did a study a few years back that showed 75% of their sales were coming from the Northeast part of the country, so they recently just added a new plat in the New York area, I believe. What my understanding of that debate was, the group now referred to as "Ames Smart Growth" was afraid that if Barilla was allowed to be built, and utilties were expanded that direction from the City of Ames, growth would start sprawling to the east, which, with the exception of Lincoln Way Energy Ethanol Plat 2 miles to the East, has yet to happen in any way, sharp, or form.
 
Where are you getting these numbers? My wife and I have friends that purchased a gorgeous 10 year old home (4BR, 3 bath, two car garage, nice neighborhood, nearly 3000 sq ft) in West Ames last year for $209,000. We have other friends that built a brand new 3BR 2 1/2 bath home with 2 car garage in Ames, and did it for less than $200K. My wife and I also go on the parade of homes, every year, in Ames, and the houses that list for $343,000 are very, very high end. Not even close to the norm.
I would say that those figures are wrong. And not by just a little.
I made them up. OK, actually they were from a 2006 study by Coldwell Bank. It did seem higher than I expected so take it for what it's worth.
http://coldwellbanker.com/servlet/News?action=viewNewsItem&contentId=1065982&customerType=News
 
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Average sale price for a single-family home covering 2,200 square feet, with four bedrooms, two-and-a-half bathrooms, a family room and a two-car garage in a “middle-management community” in cities that are home to Big 12 Conference universities:
1. $536,000 Boulder, Colo. (Colorado)
2. $343,233 Ames, Iowa (Iowa State)
3. $301,456 Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska)
4. $247,450 Lawrence (Kansas)
5. $235,000 Stillwater, Okla. (Oklahoma State)
6. $228,525 Columbia, Mo. (Missouri)
7. $219,954 Austin, Texas (Texas)
8. $204,435 Manhattan (Kansas State)
9. $201,775 College Station, Texas (Texas A&M)
10. $186,249 Norman, Okla. (Oklahoma)
11. $179,475 Waco, Texas (Baylor)
12. $158,225 Lubbock, Texas (Texas Tech)


I can't speak for other communities, but the Ames numbers are no where near accurate.
There are not ver many homes in Ames that are worth $343,000. The average is much closer to $200,000.
 
Four pages and no mention of a campustown or campus area HOTEL and the (union doesnt count)!? This would pretty much be on the university b/c they own all the land but would love to see theUniversity housing on Lincoln Way between Ash and Gray get tore down or sold and a nice marriott or hilton get put up there. I live in Des Moines but I would love to stay over night for some fb or bb games and bars afterword if there was a campustown hotel!

I'd also stay up if Ames had some cabbies!
Never gonna happen. Buchanan Hall is a pretty crucial building in the campus housing system. Plus, they just put a crapton of money into overhauling and adding onto it a few years ago, so it's definitely not going anywhere for a long time. Besides, what hotel chain would EVER want to build a location right in the middle of a dense concentration of noisy, destructive frat boys and far away from any high-traffic roads? It's an abysmal location for a hotel.

We already have a collection of hotels at Dayton Road off 30, at 13th off of 35, and on Elwood south of 30. They seem to be doing well, so I don't know what reason there could be for building a hotel in the middle of the city.
 
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Average sale price for a single-family home covering 2,200 square feet, with four bedrooms, two-and-a-half bathrooms, a family room and a two-car garage in a “middle-management communityâ€￾ in cities that are home to Big 12 Conference universities:
1. $536,000 Boulder, Colo. (Colorado)
2. $343,233 Ames, Iowa (Iowa State)
3. $301,456 Lincoln, Neb. (Nebraska)
4. $247,450 Lawrence (Kansas)
5. $235,000 Stillwater, Okla. (Oklahoma State)
6. $228,525 Columbia, Mo. (Missouri)
7. $219,954 Austin, Texas (Texas)
8. $204,435 Manhattan (Kansas State)
9. $201,775 College Station, Texas (Texas A&M)
10. $186,249 Norman, Okla. (Oklahoma)
11. $179,475 Waco, Texas (Baylor)
12. $158,225 Lubbock, Texas (Texas Tech)


I can't speak for other communities, but the Ames numbers are no where near accurate.
There are not ver many homes in Ames that are worth $343,000. The average is much closer to $200,000.

I agree that these numbers are clearly way off for Ames. Interestingly, for as much people complain about Ames housing prices, a recent SmartMoney Magazine study of housing prices in the 330 biggest markets in the country claims that Ames housing is undervalued by 10%.

Link: SmartMoney Magazine: Personal Finance and Investing (SmartMoney Magazine) | SmartMoney.com
 
Right, if there's something you don't like about the city where you live, raise families, and pay taxes, it's best to just bend over and take it. Or leave. We don't need people who aren't willing to be complacent and take what they're darn well given!

But seriously, man. Think about this for a second- if people are complaining about living in Ames, it means they want to stay there, but want to see one thing or another improved. There ARE quite a few good things about Ames, and overall, it's a nice place to live. It is, however, a LONG ways from perfect, and I think most people are just making the point that it is a longER ways from perfect than it should be. Why would you not want to be involved in making something that you care about better? If you had a leaky roof, you'd fix it. You wouldn't say, "Well, that's too bad, I guess we need to either live with it or leave town." That's what this discussion is about- fixing the leaky roof.

But how do we fix the Ames townies? "Generally speaking, the Ames townies are idiots." Calling the general population of the city "idiots" is more than pointing out a possible improvement. People with this attitude leaving town would be an improvement in my opinion.
 
I also agree with cleaning up Campustown. I never thought to make Welch a ped only area. Not a bad idea.

This has been brought up in past years, the reason it will never happen is because of the fire station.
 
Never gonna happen. Buchanan Hall is a pretty crucial building in the campus housing system. Plus, they just put a crapton of money into overhauling and adding onto it a few years ago, so it's definitely not going anywhere for a long time. Besides, what hotel chain would EVER want to build a location right in the middle of a dense concentration of noisy, destructive frat boys and far away from any high-traffic roads? It's an abysmal location for a hotel.

We already have a collection of hotels at Dayton Road off 30, at 13th off of 35, and on Elwood south of 30. They seem to be doing well, so I don't know what reason there could be for building a hotel in the middle of the city.
Here in Lawrence they're building an upscale 6 or 7 story hotel right in the middle of the "student ghetto" next to campus. It's not in an "ideal" location either but they think there's definitely some sort of market for it.

I don't see why all of the hotels have to be right by the interstate to work and think Ames could use something closer to the University.
 
Most towns that colleges reside in (besides large metropolitan cities) are pretty much the same as Ames. You take out the university and you're left with not much. Take for example Manhattan, Stillwater, even Iowa City isn't anything great if you took away the university, plus they've got the advantage of being right on I-80.

In the Big 12 that is usually the case. Yet, UNL in Lincoln mat be different. Lincoln has state government and significant manufacturing. Lincoln is more than just a university town.

One restaurant that is in Omaha, Des Moines and Davenport that should be in Ames since the founder went to school there is Hooters.
 
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Recruiting could go hand in hand with the restaurants? Players will come with the gals?
 

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