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kcdc4isu said:
I don't know why there is so much hate for the officials. The calls were about the same for each team and I thought with the exception of a couple (for both teams) they were calling per the book. When a game gets rough people complain they need to call fouls when they call fouls people shout "Let them play". You get a feel early on how a game will be called and unless they do a 180 at half a good team will see this and play to keep out of foul trouble.
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Your point is supported by the two calls on Clark for pushing off on her drives, in one case, grabbing the defender's hand. She's been doing that all season, and it wasn't called, but in this game, it was. Clark is as impressive on her inside drives as she is on the 3, but her drives were less effective when she could not push off.

I don't quite understand the hate for Clark. She is a generational player. And to achieve that level of success, she takes everything the game, including the officials, will give her. And that includes working the officials. And trash talking.

WRT the officials, I thought a few calls were pretty ticky tacky - but they were the same for both teams. LSU was able to manage that situation and the Hawks were not - in part due to the short bench previously mentioned.
 
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peatyscotch said:
Your point is supported by the two calls on Clark for pushing off on her drives, in one case, grabbing the defender's hand. She's been doing that all season, and it wasn't called, but in this game, it was. Clark is as impressive on her inside drives as she is on the 3, but her drives were less effective when she could not push off.

I don't quite understand the hate for Clark. She is a generational player. And to achieve that level of success, she takes everything the game, including the officials, will give her. And that includes working the officials. And trash talking.

WRT the officials, I thought a few calls were pretty ticky tacky - but they were the same for both teams. LSU was able to manage that situation and the Hawks were not - in part due to the short bench previously mentioned.
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Excellent post
 
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peatyscotch said:
Your point is supported by the two calls on Clark for pushing off on her drives, in one case, grabbing the defender's hand. She's been doing that all season, and it wasn't called, but in this game, it was. Clark is as impressive on her inside drives as she is on the 3, but her drives were less effective when she could not push off.

I don't quite understand the hate for Clark. She is a generational player. And to achieve that level of success, she takes everything the game, including the officials, will give her. And that includes working the officials. And trash talking.

WRT the officials, I thought a few calls were pretty ticky tacky - but they were the same for both teams. LSU was able to manage that situation and the Hawks were not - in part due to the short bench previously mentioned.
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LSU defended Clark about as well as anyone I have seen in the tournament and she still dropped 30 and 8 on them even with the foul problems. Been saying it all tournament that you just have to accept she is going to make some of those rediculously long 3 pointers even if you guard her well but the way to limit her is to take away the easy lane to the basket and force the rest of the Iowa team to beat you. You also have to go right after her if she does attempt to play defense on a drive as Iowa protects her with that zone where all she has to do is guard anything about 15+ away from the hoop and if someone gets past her she relies on that zone to pick up the drive. That is part of why SC looked so bad against Iowa, they gave her way too many lanes to the hoop and she drove on them all night and it took them being down by a lot in the 3rd to finally start letting that 1 girl shoot the wide open 3's Clark was giving her all night.

Both offensive fouls they called on Clark should have been called and she usually gets away with a lot more of those most games but defensively you have to stay on her and force them to call that else she is just going to drive on you all night. As for the technical, it was a weak call but she has a reputation of whining about every foul called on Iowa so my guess is the ref just had enough and felt it was a frustration toss by her. That is the 1 part of her game I dislike is she is the best damn player on the floor every night but still does a lot of complaining. She probably gets away with a lot more than she realizes.

The taunting by the LSU player was petty but Clark had just done the same to Louisville so don't have a lot of room to be made about it as Clark does a lot of trash talking and antics herself and I am guessing she probably would have done something to rub LSU fans the wrong way had Iowa won so it is what it is. I think the technical and being humbled the way she was by the end of the game where she couldn't be her usual cocky self hopefully is a lesson to be learned that its an area of how she carries herself on the court that can be improved on. Just play the damn game and let your play do all the talking as she doesn't need to prove anything or let anyone know how good she is because we all see it when she plays at the high level that she does.
 
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Final Coaches poll came out. ISU #25. Usually like the AP better. Does AP even do a final or is their last one for the season pre-March Madness?

#2 Iowa - up one from previous poll
#17 Oklahoma - down three from previous poll
#19 Texas - down three from previous poll

Four Big Ten teams in the final Top 10.

Too early to judge who will be ranked pre-season since you have to factor in portal adds these days. Unless ISU and Sooners add some I'll go out on a limb and say maybe only Texas will be ranked pre-season, maybe Baylor.

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peatyscotch said:
Your point is supported by the two calls on Clark for pushing off on her drives, in one case, grabbing the defender's hand. She's been doing that all season, and it wasn't called, but in this game, it was. Clark is as impressive on her inside drives as she is on the 3, but her drives were less effective when she could not push off.

I don't quite understand the hate for Clark. She is a generational player. And to achieve that level of success, she takes everything the game, including the officials, will give her. And that includes working the officials. And trash talking.

WRT the officials, I thought a few calls were pretty ticky tacky - but they were the same for both teams. LSU was able to manage that situation and the Hawks were not - in part due to the short bench previously mentioned.
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I think Clark is unbelievable- so talented. However, while I understand from reading articles, message boards, etc. that it's part of the game, I don't like the trash talking at all. It bothers me when people talk about her being such a great role model and she goes on and on about that's all she wants is for young girls to look up to her. Trash talking, elbowing people in the face on an out of bounds play (Michigan State overtime), and whining to the refs every time you get a call against you is not a role model. If we want to talk great role models for young girls in Iowa, let's look at Ashley Joens, Stephanie Soares, and Emily Ryan (and really the whole ISU women's team- Morgan Kane and the Down Syndrome gal too- how awesome!). I watch them leave the court every time and truly make kids days by high fiving them all on the way out. I never see any of those three argue or even look at the refs and never see any of them doing any trash talking! This is an ISU message board- let's praise the heck out of these great role models!
 
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LSU’s Angel Reese Turns Down Biden White House Invite But Says, ‘We’ll Go To The Obamas’​


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LSU’s Angel Reese Turns Down Biden White House Invite But Says, ‘We’ll Go To The Obamas’

The star basketball player said the Tigers should celebrate with former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama rather than Joe and Jill Biden.
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Don't know what message one should draw from this story but it makes me downcast. I am less than enthralled with Cark's antics and supported Reese's response to it in kind. My wish is that things would get toned down and more forthright all around. When did being a great player give license to act overtly antagonistic towards opponents? John McEnroe?

Reese's rejecting Biden's invitation to the White House sends a message and Jill Biden's offer to Iowa and Clark was ill-advised.
 
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LSU’s Angel Reese Turns Down Biden White House Invite But Says, ‘We’ll Go To The Obamas’​


www.huffpost.com

LSU’s Angel Reese Turns Down Biden White House Invite But Says, ‘We’ll Go To The Obamas’

The star basketball player said the Tigers should celebrate with former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama rather than Joe and Jill Biden.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com

Don't know what message one should draw from this story but it makes me downcast. I am less than enthralled with Cark's antics and supported Reese's response to it in kind. My wish is that things would get toned down and more forthright all around. When did being a great player give license to act overtly antagonistic towards opponents? John McEnroe?

Reese's rejecting Biden's invitation to the White House sends a message and Jill Biden's offer to Iowa and Clark was ill-advised.
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Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
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NWICY said:
She's got her 10 minutes of fame, but she is really wearing it out in a hurry. I'm tired of her and Clark both. I'm guessing we wouldn't be getting all this except the Iowa media is loving this drama.
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I thought her crown and "double-double queen" schtick were cringey but now I hate her and want her to go away.
 
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WartburgClone said:
I thought her crown and "double-double queen" schtick were cringey but now I hate her and want her to go away.
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Yeah she really wasn't even the player of the game against Iowa IMO. I guess I just get tired of people who are full of themselves. You can put Aaron Rodgers, and his ex Danica Patrick right in those type of groups for me.
Have to give her and Clark credit they are keeping the women's championship game in the press longer than the men's though I'm not sure it's for the right reasons.
 
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Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
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I care. Regardless of who was in the White House accepting a championship invitation is a two-way honor and tradition: Honoring the team for achieving the highest of goals and honoring America with your presence.

Why even recognize the tourney championship? Why even have a trophy? Maybe fans should just duke out on Twitter. They all have their opinions and they can't all be right but so whoever has the biggest dumbass comments wins.
 
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