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UNI's Superbowl??

bmuff said:
Yeah, but how many walk-ons do we have from North or South Dakota? VERY few if any. I'm all for not giving UNI ANY money. Starve them out and turn them into Drake. We need those walk-ons and I can name a BUNCH of their recent recruits who we could have used.

Mac was sympathetic toward UNI and liked to help them out. I don't think Chizik will be as nice...and you can tell I'm right by future schedules.
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Actually after rethinking this I think you are right. College football is getting brutal financially and we need every edge we can get. We should be looking out for #1 first and if we can put UNI in the dirt and get some talent as walk-ons then so be it. It is sad but true.
 
More is not merrier in football. In Basketball there are plenty of recruits to go around. In football we are always going to be scratching and clawing to find diamonds in the rough. Sadly for the "state of Iowa", if UNI isn't as strong, we will find more of them going forward than if they remain a 1AA powerhouse.

Go Cyclones!
 
I feel the same way about beating Iowa. Smaller athletic program (money wise) gunning to beat them back in every sport.

I too am a huge UNI athletic supporter in every game except 1.
 
Save the "Superbowl" excuses until UNI actually beats us say 5 out of 7 years in a row and then we can use that as an excuse like the EIU boys do. Last I knew though the Superbowl was something that you had to accomplish and not just something you schedule. I've always hated that analogy.
 
everyyard said:
College football is getting brutal financially and we need every edge we can get.
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Well, as someone noted earlier in this thread, the ISU-UNI game was on of the best attended games last year. Better than Toledo and UNLV by far. The only team we've played non-conference that brings that type of draw to JTS is Iowa.

So...I kinda think we helped ourselves financially by playing UNI.

But...what do I know...
 
The points made about UNI being weak is good for us are valid. Look to the West to see the best example. Nebraska has no competition in their state for walkons. I am not saying that it is good or bad but it is valid. If our only competition for higher end walkons were on the East side of the state our program would be better. The real truth is that if we get better on the field then the recruits will come. My head is spinning now. I think the Brian said it best - "2 months and 1 day till kickoff!"
 
ornryactor said:
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't SDSU a consistently good team? Don't think they're a downgrade from UNI- they're not. More like a lateral movement, if anything.
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I don't think he was implying SDSU was a downgrade, instead saying that, like UNI, they are a decent team.

I for one am kind of excited for playing the SDSU and NDSU. My dad and uncles are all Jackrabbits, and my twin brother was an NDSU Bison for a year before transferring to ISU.
 
ISUFan22 said:
Well, as someone noted earlier in this thread, the ISU-UNI game was on of the best attended games last year. Better than Toledo and UNLV by far. The only team we've played non-conference that brings that type of draw to JTS is Iowa.

So...I kinda think we helped ourselves financially by playing UNI.

But...what do I know...
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Last season´s game vs. UNI holds our all time attendance record at JTS (55,518), even beating the Nebraska game (55,338) the following week by almost 200 people
(http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=48393&SPID=4653&DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=639337)

And they came to win. I wish our fans would be like their fans were that game... we had a record attendance and the UNI section was louder than we were (not that we had much to cheer for but...). Pretty sad when little brother from the east comes in and makes your stadium their home... (And that is not their fault...)

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clones_jer said:
You're a real piece of work ... probably want to turn Drake into DMACC?? Crush Iowa Lakes CC into ummm ... something lower???

We should ALWAYS beat UNI, mainly because any mediocre DI program should ALWAYS beat the best of I-AA.

Can you respect you're state just a little? There's nothing wrong with having a successful I-AA program and two successful DI programs - the more the merrier. BTW recently we've been the one of the 3 not holding up our end of the bargin - a good start would be to kick UNI butt on the field, not off the schedule.
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Hey, all I want is for ISU to be successful. I think that it's a valid point that UNI being good hurts ISU's walk-on program, therefore hurting our overall FB program. I want for UNI NOT to be a viable option for the players we're recruiting (in FB and MBB). So why give them money? Why help them out? ISU is NOT in the position to dole out charity. Give some other 1AA school the payday (like NDSU or SDSU) and put UNI in the budget crunch. That may seem cut-throat, but that's the world we're in with D1 athletics. And it looks like the schedule makers at ISU agree.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how an ISU-UNI game - especially being it's always played at JTS and tickets sell like hot cakes...is charity to UNI...
 
My point wasn't to put ISU on a pedestal, and I KNOW that saying "superbowl" makes us sound like Hawk fans. That wasn't the point. My point was that they really seem to be gunning for us, more than anybody else on their schedule, and as close as last year's game was, I'm a little worried. Obviously, even last year, we probably had better talent on the field, but they wanted it waaay more, and I won't even go into how badly we were beaten from a coaching standpoint. My point is that UNI is really gunning for us, and hopefully Chizik takes this game a little more serious than McCarney. Thats it
 
ISUFan22 said:
I'm still trying to figure out how an ISU-UNI game - especially being it's always played at JTS and tickets sell like hot cakes...is charity to UNI...
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because that is their largest payout of the year...the cut they get from jack trice. I can see both sides of this and thought I was in favor of playing a motivated skilled UNI team, but the more I think about it I think it is better for ISU if we find a way to make UNI as relevant as Drake.
 
ISUFan22 said:
I'm still trying to figure out how an ISU-UNI game - especially being it's always played at JTS and tickets sell like hot cakes...is charity to UNI...
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I truly think that the ticket sales for that game was more a function of the time of year than anything. ISU's biggest crowds are almost always in September, before the ag community is going strong in the fields. It was a night game too. Throw in a few thousand UNI fans and you have record sales.

Do I think that NDSU will have the same amount of interest? No. But I don't think that we'll see a significant drop in the amount of ISU fans attending if the game is in the same spot on the schedule.
 
Flag Guy said:
And they came to win. I wish our fans would be like their fans were that game... we had a record attendance and the UNI section was louder than we were (not that we had much to cheer for but...). Pretty sad when little brother from the east comes in and makes your stadium their home... (And that is not their fault...)

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Their fans had reason to cheer. Personally, I was DISGUSTED by our play and coaching. Other than a few transfers, there's not one player on UNI's team that Mac couldn't have signed if he wanted. That means that UNI was doing a better job of evaluating, developing and coaching talent. If that kick would have been good, I wouldn't have been sad to see Mac get fired on the spot. A reason NOT to play UNI: if you somehow lose to them, you're probably going to get fired...especially after 12 years on the job.
 
The record ticket sales weren't as much a function of us playing UNI (yes, it was a small part), but rather the fact that it was Family Weekend at ISU and everybody's parents/brothers/sisters were in town and went to the football game. I think almost every year our highest attendance is the Family Weekend game, and last year's just happened to be against UNI.
 
Al_4_State said:
My point wasn't to put ISU on a pedestal, and I KNOW that saying "superbowl" makes us sound like Hawk fans. That wasn't the point. My point was that they really seem to be gunning for us, more than anybody else on their schedule, and as close as last year's game was, I'm a little worried. Obviously, even last year, we probably had better talent on the field, but they wanted it waaay more, and I won't even go into how badly we were beaten from a coaching standpoint. My point is that UNI is really gunning for us, and hopefully Chizik takes this game a little more serious than McCarney. Thats it
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So true...The Panthers were starting to smell weakness in Danny Boy's coaching, mainly against weaker teams, so I don't blame them for coming in confident. Gene will change things by letting the 1-AAs and mid-majors know they are playing a BCS school.
 
bmuff said:
Do I think that NDSU will have the same amount of interest? No. But I don't think that we'll see a significant drop in the amount of ISU fans attending if the game is in the same spot on the schedule.
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I call bullcrap.

I know a significant number of ISU fans that went because it was UNI. Many went with some of their UNI friends.

You change that game to NDSU or someone like 'em and we're looking at very similar attendance as we had for Toledo and UNLV.
 
ISUFan22 said:
I call bullcrap.

I know a significant number of ISU fans that went because it was UNI. Many went with some of their UNI friends.

You change that game to NDSU or someone like 'em and we're looking at very similar attendance as we had for Toledo and UNLV.
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Someone write this down cause I'm only gonna type it once: I totally and wholeheartedly agree with ISUFan22.


I feel so dirty :baffled5wh:... I gotta go ...
 
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