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Upset, no. I do think that doing something is the right thing to do however.
Upset, no. I do think that doing something is the right thing to do however.
Tyler Sash has died
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Yes, yes you do.
It is about reaching out to a rival, to fellow Iowans and saying, "Hey, I know this is a tough time, but you'll get through it."
Yes, yes you do.
It is about reaching out to a rival, to fellow Iowans and saying, "Hey, I know this is a tough time, but you'll get through it."
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Forgive me if this was brought up already, I only skimmed the thread.
Did we do anything for OSU when they were #2 and it was right after that plane crash?
Forgive me if this was brought up already, I only skimmed the thread.
Did we do anything for OSU when they were #2 and it was right after that plane crash?
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Yes. Their PRESENT athletes were killed in a tragic plane crash.
We are talking about a FORMER player of our non-confernece opponent who has been gone from the team for several years now. He last played in 2010. Few if any present players on the Iowa team even played with him. It appears that his death was self inflicted.........either drug overdose or suicide.
Trying to equate this with the Oklahoma State tragedy is so far off it is ridiculous.
Yes. Their PRESENT athletes were killed in a tragic plane crash.
We are talking about a FORMER player of our non-confernece opponent who has been gone from the team for several years now. He last played in 2010. Few if any present players on the Iowa team even played with him. It appears that his death was self inflicted.........either drug overdose or suicide.
Trying to equate this with the Oklahoma State tragedy is so far off it is ridiculous.
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[Stormin]Why? I fail to see the connection to Iowa State.[/Stormin]
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I almost feel like a moderator should just close this thread and snip it off where we started discussing the present crap. That way, when someone necros this thread in a couple of years, we aren't all really embarrassed by it.
I almost feel like a moderator should just close this thread and snip it off where we started discussing the present crap. That way, when someone necros this thread in a couple of years, we aren't all really embarrassed by it.
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So if Stevie Hicks had committed suicide the week the Iowa--Iowa State game was to be played in Kinnick, that the Hawkeyes would have had some type of recognizing Stevie Hicks death, right?
That is what Tyler Sash's death is comparable to.
So if Stevie Hicks had committed suicide the week the Iowa--Iowa State game was to be played in Kinnick, that the Hawkeyes would have had some type of recognizing Stevie Hicks death, right?
That is what Tyler Sash's death is comparable to.
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Would they have? Don't know. Would it have been a nice gesture? Absolutely.
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In regards to the Baylor reference, it still would be different. This is a kid that grew up in-state. Attending a home-state school. He was proud to have attended Iowa but he was also proud to be an Iowan. Someone mentioned empathy, and that is what is going on here. These Iowa fans, some of those who will be attending the game on Saturday and personally knew him, may still be grieving. These could be your coworkers, your neighbors, your friends, your family. They could be strangers. But if you are from this state, you should know that even in the larger cities people band together with one another when tragedy happens. The rivalry is one thing and I give plenty of **** on here and expect plenty of **** back, but I would not wish anything remotely close to this on someone and I acknowledge what others may be going through in such a time. If the tables were turned, I would prefer Iowa to give a moment of silence for an ex-ISU player who just passed away.
I understand what you're saying in essence. But there is absolutely no way in this matter that you will not come across as a ****. If the powers that be at ISU recognize him with a moment of silence, that is very classy. If they do not, I don't think any Iowa fans are expecting or should be expecting it. But there is no reason in my opinion that this particular debate should be carrying on for multiple pages. While you may not agree with a moment of silence if it does happen, it doesn't mean that you need to make a large ordeal out of it. Let there me the moment of silence, then go back to cheering for your team.
There's no need to make a big deal out of this. Just be respectful of others in times like this.
I understand what you're saying but the moment of silence would be the classy thing to do. It would be classy if it were against Baylor and one of their former players (that played recent enough that kids attending ISU probably still remember his name as in Sash's case). Being the game is against Iowa, it is only moreso. Timing is a huge factor here, that it happened during this week and not three weeks ago makes a large difference.
In regards to the Baylor reference, it still would be different. This is a kid that grew up in-state. Attending a home-state school. He was proud to have attended Iowa but he was also proud to be an Iowan. Someone mentioned empathy, and that is what is going on here. These Iowa fans, some of those who will be attending the game on Saturday and personally knew him, may still be grieving. These could be your coworkers, your neighbors, your friends, your family. They could be strangers. But if you are from this state, you should know that even in the larger cities people band together with one another when tragedy happens. The rivalry is one thing and I give plenty of **** on here and expect plenty of **** back, but I would not wish anything remotely close to this on someone and I acknowledge what others may be going through in such a time. If the tables were turned, I would prefer Iowa to give a moment of silence for an ex-ISU player who just passed away.
I understand what you're saying in essence. But there is absolutely no way in this matter that you will not come across as a ****. If the powers that be at ISU recognize him with a moment of silence, that is very classy. If they do not, I don't think any Iowa fans are expecting or should be expecting it. But there is no reason in my opinion that this particular debate should be carrying on for multiple pages. While you may not agree with a moment of silence if it does happen, it doesn't mean that you need to make a large ordeal out of it. Let there me the moment of silence, then go back to cheering for your team.
There's no need to make a big deal out of this. Just be respectful of others in times like this.
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Maybe, maybe not, but let's not stoop to their hypothetical level. We can do better than that.
Maybe, maybe not, but let's not stoop to their hypothetical level. We can do better than that.
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I think if Barta and JP decide they want to do something......fine. I don't see it as a big deal one way or another. The fact that ISU may not have done anything for Hicks, Berryman, Bray, etc. should not really affect this, but it might be nice if ISU would take a closer look at what it could do in the future in these instances. Also, I understand that some don't think we should do it because Tyler was not a Cyclone (and was really a pain in the *** to us, quite frankly) but so what? Already, I think ISU fans have shown a lot more class in this situation than our counterparts to the east did in the cases of Hicks and Berryman. I have no problem with not stooping to their level, and actually being classier than them.
In the future, what might be nice is to do a video tribute once a year to all those former athletes that we know passed in the previous year.....kind of like what the Oscars do each year with movie stars, directors, etc. that have passed. Just do a video slide who with their nam, their pic, maybe a short video of them playing, and their birth and death dates or maybe just the dates they were at ISU. Put it on the video board at a football game or a basketball game. Just do it once a year.
IMHO, it would be a nice memorial gesture, and this way no one would get missed.
I think if Barta and JP decide they want to do something......fine. I don't see it as a big deal one way or another. The fact that ISU may not have done anything for Hicks, Berryman, Bray, etc. should not really affect this, but it might be nice if ISU would take a closer look at what it could do in the future in these instances. Also, I understand that some don't think we should do it because Tyler was not a Cyclone (and was really a pain in the *** to us, quite frankly) but so what? Already, I think ISU fans have shown a lot more class in this situation than our counterparts to the east did in the cases of Hicks and Berryman. I have no problem with not stooping to their level, and actually being classier than them.
In the future, what might be nice is to do a video tribute once a year to all those former athletes that we know passed in the previous year.....kind of like what the Oscars do each year with movie stars, directors, etc. that have passed. Just do a video slide who with their nam, their pic, maybe a short video of them playing, and their birth and death dates or maybe just the dates they were at ISU. Put it on the video board at a football game or a basketball game. Just do it once a year.
IMHO, it would be a nice memorial gesture, and this way no one would get missed.
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The ones I see that are most vocal on having something for Sash are actually Hawkeyes. I can understand their affection for Sash. He was a Hawkeye.
Tyler Sash, I really have NO affilitation with. He is from southeastern Iowa about a couple of hundred miles from where I live in Iowa. He was not a member of the University I went to or the football team that represented my school. I really have no affiliation with him at all and he has done nothing for my school.
Tyler Sash was last a member of the Iowa Football team in 2010. He has long since been gone. Playing professionally for the New York Giants, and winning a Super Bowl. I heard he moved back to Oskaloosa.
Tyler Sash's death is tragic. Like I said, not sure whether ISU would go so far as a moment of silence.......for a former member of an opposing team. Emphasis on FORMER. I just do not see this as ISU's function to have a formal moment of silence. If Pollard decides to do so , then fine. But I see Pollard drawing the line at some point. And hopefully people will not be angry because the proper place to eulogize him at his home stadium in front of his fans. And IF Iowa plans on doing that at their next home game then that should be sufficient, We extend our heartfelt sympathies.
The ones I see that are most vocal on having something for Sash are actually Hawkeyes. I can understand their affection for Sash. He was a Hawkeye.
Tyler Sash, I really have NO affilitation with. He is from southeastern Iowa about a couple of hundred miles from where I live in Iowa. He was not a member of the University I went to or the football team that represented my school. I really have no affiliation with him at all and he has done nothing for my school.
Tyler Sash was last a member of the Iowa Football team in 2010. He has long since been gone. Playing professionally for the New York Giants, and winning a Super Bowl. I heard he moved back to Oskaloosa.
Tyler Sash's death is tragic. Like I said, not sure whether ISU would go so far as a moment of silence.......for a former member of an opposing team. Emphasis on FORMER. I just do not see this as ISU's function to have a formal moment of silence. If Pollard decides to do so , then fine. But I see Pollard drawing the line at some point. And hopefully people will not be angry because the proper place to eulogize him at his home stadium in front of his fans. And IF Iowa plans on doing that at their next home game then that should be sufficient, We extend our heartfelt sympathies.
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For claiming to not care if something is done, you sure do seem to care a lot.
For claiming to not care if something is done, you sure do seem to care a lot.
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marcmorehouse @marcmorehouse 2m2 minutes ago Iowa SID Steve Roe said ISU reached out with its idea to honor Tyler Sash. Iowa liked it and approved.
marcmorehouse @marcmorehouse 2m2 minutes ago Iowa SID Steve Roe said ISU reached out with its idea to honor Tyler Sash. Iowa liked it and approved.
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I couldn't be more for ISU and have more detest for U of I than I do...and I think it's appropriate that we do something. Never met the man. Never cheered for the man. But I respect him as a kid from a small town in Iowa who made it to the biggest show and represented you, as an Iowan, like it or not. And some of our guys liked him as well.
Anyway, I think I already said most of that. Maybe what I wanted to really say was that you're being a ****. Emphasis on ****. You can't see it because you are too far into your argument to step back and see it.
I couldn't be more for ISU and have more detest for U of I than I do...and I think it's appropriate that we do something. Never met the man. Never cheered for the man. But I respect him as a kid from a small town in Iowa who made it to the biggest show and represented you, as an Iowan, like it or not. And some of our guys liked him as well.
Anyway, I think I already said most of that. Maybe what I wanted to really say was that you're being a ****. Emphasis on ****. You can't see it because you are too far into your argument to step back and see it.
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Either eat a Snickers, or stop peeing in your own morning cereal. It was a simple question. But you seem intent on upping your **** status to max xp. I hope that post allowed you to level up.
Your title below your name says Speechless - if only that were true.
Either eat a Snickers, or stop peeing in your own morning cereal. It was a simple question. But you seem intent on upping your **** status to max xp. I hope that post allowed you to level up.
Your title below your name says Speechless - if only that were true.
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Iowa State continues to do things the "right way". Just shows that JP and company are willing to extend a helping hand to all in a time of need, amazing and proud.
Iowa State continues to do things the "right way". Just shows that JP and company are willing to extend a helping hand to all in a time of need, amazing and proud.
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No offense but I'm glad most Cyclone fans don't think like you.
I'm proud that our University is doing the classy thing and will do something for a former Hawkeye and Iowan.
No offense but I'm glad most Cyclone fans don't think like you.
I'm proud that our University is doing the classy thing and will do something for a former Hawkeye and Iowan.
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