Torrent Brewing Company

First off, congrats to clonebydesign :) You've embarked on a whole lot of work, but also a whole lot of reward.

I'm one of the founders/brewers of 515 here in Des Moines (well, Clive actually), and it is so much work it's not even funny, but it's so rewarding it is awesome as well.

As far as market saturation goes, I think there's a long way to go before we get there. You can look at all the statistics, but we just recently passed the number of breweries in the country that existed prior to prohibition. The overall beer market is flat, but craft beer is growing better than 10% year over year, and has been for over a decade now. We have over 50 breweries in Iowa now, and probably at least 10 or so that I'm aware of in planning, including another one, or possibly two there in the Ames area aside from Torrent. If you look at them as "bars that have beer they brew themselves", I think it changes the perception of what a brewery is and does. How many bars can flourish in a town? Quite a few. The real scalability issues come in the packaging and distribution markets where there is only so much shelf space, and only so many draft lines for beer. That's where some of the more interesting competition will be happening in the next 5-10 years.

Our goal is to make and serve the best beer we possibly can, and I think the breweries that are focusing on that, and are willing and able to put the time and effort into it to achieve it, are going to be just fine no matter what happens.

The ones who are lackadaisical about quality or just in it for the money or because running a brewery seems like fun are going to struggle in the long run, IMO.

There is a big leap from homebrewing to running a production brewery, but lots of people (including 515) are doing it, and it's pretty awesome if you're a beer lover!

Cheers!
 
We’ll have a core lineup of beers that are offered yearround so that you’ll always know they’ll be on tap but we really want to keepthings fresh with a nice rotating lineup throughout the year. In addition we love a good hop bomb IPA II& III (since I have a hop farm naturally well do wet hop beers) but thebeers will be balanced. Anotherdirection that we want to go is a barrel aged and sour beer program. So don’t think well do just the same oldstuff, I wouldn’t be doing this if I were.

A really good sour is something the state desperately lacks (well, at least up in this corner - I think there might be some guys in Central Iowa experimenting with them). If you guys are cranking out some good sours, that would be fantastic.

Love wet hop stuff too. I definitely think it's cool that you guys already have the hop farm, so you can essentially provide yourselves with the hops you want.
 
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A really good sour is something the state desperately lacks (well, at least up in this corner - I think there might be some guys in Central Iowa experimenting with them). If you guys are cranking out some good sours, that would be fantastic.

Love wet hop stuff too. I definitely think it's cool that you guys already have the hop farm, so you can essentially provide yourselves with the hops you want.

515 has a pretty good sour. Meet me at 35/20 and you bring the TG.
 
Apparently so.

But I do think this space will soon be overbuilt like any hot and profitable industry. Then the poor and weak will start to get weeded out. As more and more microbrews popup it seems that there is more and more "average tasting" beer out there.

Kind of like what happened in California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Michigan.....oh wait.
 
Good to hear about the Central Iowa sours. I'll be seeking them out.

The best thing I've discovered about being overflowing with Toppling Goliath is that I have fantastic beer trade ammo. My cellar is full of Russian River and Jester King sours, and I have a ton of Pliny in my beer fridge, just because guys in California and Texas really want Toppling Goliath.
 
I understand this is totally off topic but do any of you guys know if some bar in ames serves a drink called "Ames Tea" or "Barney".
 
Now that this thread has become the gathering place for craft brewers, will you give some orientation to those of us who don't know the terms?

For instance, what is a "sour?" And what are "wet hops?"
 
Now that this thread has become the gathering place for craft brewers, will you give some orientation to those of us who don't know the terms?

For instance, what is a "sour?" And what are "wet hops?"

A sour is a beer that has had wild yeast introduced or often a bacteria called lactobacillus (often this bacteria is what ruins most homebrews due to infection). They turely are "soured" beer and are becoming very popular, similar to what IPA/IIPAs went through a decade ago (and still).

A wet hop beer is a beer made in the fall when fresh picked hops are used soon after being picked. They have not been run though a drying process that removes moisture from the lupulin resin.
 
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Now that this thread has become the gathering place for craft brewers, will you give some orientation to those of us who don't know the terms?

For instance, what is a "sour?" And what are "wet hops?"

I won't have this exactly properly explained, but here goes:

Sours are beers that use a certain type of yeast to have a sour flavor. That yeast is the dominant flavor, unlike an IPA where the hops are the dominant flavor, or a stout/porter where the malted grains are the dominant flavor.

Wet hops means that rather than being dried out and processed for shipping elsewhere, hops go right from the vine to the brewing process, fresh as possible. The beer is better when this happens, but it's pretty much impossible to make beer this way except for when fresh hops are in season, and you have a brewery close to the actual hop farm.
 
I won't have this exactly properly explained, but here goes:

Sours are beers that use a certain type of yeast to have a sour flavor. That yeast is the dominant flavor, unlike an IPA where the hops are the dominant flavor, or a stout/porter where the malted grains are the dominant flavor.

Wet hops means that rather than being dried out and processed for shipping elsewhere, hops go right from the vine to the brewing process, fresh as possible. The beer is better when this happens, but it's pretty much impossible to make beer this way except for when fresh hops are in season, and you have a brewery close to the actual hop farm.

Thanks AmesHawk and Al. I particularly appreciated the layman's definitions above. Is there a layman's glossary to beer terms? Whenever, I go to a beer rating site, I never really understand terms like "pilsner," "lager," "pale ale v. IPA," etc.
 
I won't have this exactly properly explained, but here goes:

Sours are beers that use a certain type of yeast to have a sour flavor. That yeast is the dominant flavor, unlike an IPA where the hops are the dominant flavor, or a stout/porter where the malted grains are the dominant flavor.

Wet hops means that rather than being dried out and processed for shipping elsewhere, hops go right from the vine to the brewing process, fresh as possible. The beer is better when this happens, but it's pretty much impossible to make beer this way except for when fresh hops are in season, and you have a brewery close to the actual hop farm.


Nevermind, Ameshawk beat me to it.
 
Thought some of you may want to see what the building currently looks like inside and where it is going. Building permit is on it's way so time to get dirty!
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Thought some of you may want to see what the building currently looks like inside and where it is going. Building permit is on it's way so time to get dirty!
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On a serious note, how much of the brewery area will be visible from the serving area? It would be really cool to be able to see the equipment and process.
 

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