Thursday DC speculation....
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I for one wasn't super excited about Williams. Yeah, his D created a lot of turnovers, but it was ranked pretty poorly. ISU had a good turnover D back in 2004 which was OK, but we had problems stopping teams in crunch time. The other reason why I wasn't thrilled with JW was that he was a DB coach at Nebraska and Ash has the DBs covered.
As for diversity, I'd hope that CPR does address it. You need minority coaches to not only relate to minority players, but to help recruit them. So far this staff is light on minority coaches with 1/4 on O and 0/1 on D. Four assistant jobs to be filled plus three S&C and probably one more Ops guy to hire. Honestly, I am going to be disappointed if at least half of those 8 hires aren't minorities.
My thoughts exactly. I think Rhoades may just name himself DC. He hired an up-and-comer for OC and perhaps he will have a completely hands-off approach to that side of the ball? It is very interesting that almost the entire staff has been assembled and the area of the team which struggled the most last fall still does not have a coordinator.
Totally agree. You can be the greatest X and O guy in the world and it won't mean anything if you don't have the talent to work with.
or maybe it is because the best candidates out there dont want the job for that reason alone.
Could be. I think all of us would just like to see this finished. Frankly, if it is Rhoades himself I wouldn't have a big problem with it. I think there are a handful of HC who also handle one or the other coordinator's positions and it seems to work ok for them.
I dont get why people still think he's gonna be the DC as well as the HC...he has already said he will not be the DC. Recruiting at this point is much more important because how close we are to signing day. The players know what kind of defense theyre getting with Rhoads so it doesnt really matter if we get one now or after signing day.
I agree that recruiting is the priority right now. I wasn't aware that PR had been questioned about being the DC and said that it wouldn't be him. I just thought that since this was dragging out a bit that perhaps he would fill the job himself. Not a big deal just was brainstorming.
Marvin Sanders was the DB coach at Nebraska when Williams was on Solich's staff. Pretty sure that JW coached either LBs or DEs.
I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from stats at Buffalo. While they did win the MAC, I am not at all convinced that they had the most talented roster in the league - especially on the defensive side of the ball. Isn't doing more with less a sign of good coaching?
We also only have 2 weeks for recruits....we can get a coach anytime. I'm betting its a lot easier getting a coach after signing day than recruits.
So the fired coach, gets a job with the new staff (WR coach? ST coach?) and the coach with a better resume that was kept on doesnt. Something is not adding up if true. McFarland got screwed in this whole deal.
Having talked with several people with very high connections, i will assure you this to not be true. The very essence is this program and these kids had the rug yanked out from underneath them. JP did everything he could to not only get a coach in here, but someone that can coach, recruit and could develop something special because he will stay. If you look at Iowa today, the legend of Iowa football really was developed from mr fry. He built iowa into what they are today and then stayed even though he had many opportunities to go elsewhere. Thats what having head coaching stability gets you.
Lets evaluate what Coach Rhoads has done.
Hired a exciting and rising Offensive Coordinator - he knew he needed this position filled because his name is associated to defense, he needed someone/something to speak to those players being recruited for the offense.
He hired a few of the position coaches he wanted right away - obviously losing Coach Price was a setback, but as it stands, we're three coaches away from having a better all around staff. Imo the coaches he's brought in are very good recruiters. Thats very big - keeping Coach Fountain was huge.
Coach Rhoads is looking at Feb. 4th as being right around the corner. He's trying to fill out a recruiting class and establish a lasting relationship with every player on the squad. Those to me are the two most important things to righting the ship. He understands the success of this program in the future hinges on maintaining our current players and landing the right players in this class.
The coaching issues will work themselves out. I for one have my favorites, but, i'm fully aware that a guy like Coach Rhoads knows what he's looking for in a Def. Coord and he will get it. To me, as a fan, thats all we can ask.
And realizing that we still have a bunch of Fresh/Soph kids sitting around talking about all the things that Chizik told them on that phone call sealing those commitments has to be frustrating. The work that Coach Rhoads is doing to not only establish those connections with those young men but also showing them that he will not turn his back on them i'm sure is earning him a lot of respect with the players and thus has earned my respect. This bodes well for ISU football - he is setting the tone for which his team will be established.
I agree with everything you said, but I wasn't trying to say that our defense was horrible. I was trying to say that it is a hard job being a DC in the Big XII right now. I know, if it were me, I would take at least a week thinking it over before making the decision to work somewhere in the conference.
I hear ya swanny, i think we need an up and coming DC or a position coach thats paid his dues and is ready for that shot at being a DC. For the dollars we can offer, and the position in general, were looking for a coach that this position would be considered a step up - regardless.
Either way, i will be glad when that post is filled - whenever it happens!!!!
Great Post KMAC. Keep it and post it every time a new silly thread starts on DC.
Rhoads is obviously focusing on recruiting right now which is what he should be doing this close to signing day.:yes:
Rhoads is obviously focusing on recruiting right now which is what he should be doing this close to signing day.:yes:
I can't help but think that Rhoads already has a DC coach but it hasn't been released yet. How else do you explaing all the defensive commits and visits this weekend? Those kids want to know who they will be playing for and who will coach them. I would think that it would be hard to commit to a school when you "don't know" who your coach is going to be. I'm sure they all have a pretty good idea who it is. I don't really care who it is as long as they buy into Rhoads' philosophy and style. I'm sure it will be someone he trusts. As far as everyone saying we need more size and speed...thats neglibible. Size and speed can be negated by playing in the right positions and by playing smart. That all comes down to coaching...something numb nuts obviously couldn't do. And with that I'm going to take my third post and go home. Later dudes!!:smile:
I would like to see a guy, whomever it is, with a chip on his shoulder willing to do anything it takes to stop the spread or to prove himself as a great coach. But, even great coaches get made to look a fool in this conference.