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This is Steve Prohm’s program. Period.

cyclones12321 said:
Very interested to see how Iowa State plays vs Baylor. Old teams might have had a hangover game. Hopefully not this year. Can’t take any days off in this league
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No classes to get in the way of staying focused. I’m feeling pretty good about this game.
 
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HitItHard58 said:
Not heresy at all. That's just a fact for anybody who doesn't have their head shoved up Freddy's ass. To the posters who don't see it, there are plenty of ISU fans who find any little thing possible to criticize Prohm and somehow wind up mentioning Hoiberg in the process. It's ridiculous to anybody with half a brain but they're out there. Some are just a little more subtle than others. I have some Cyclone buddies who constantly ***** about Prohm about the most minuscule stuff. One of them flat out said he hates Prohm and wants Hoiberg back. Talks about it as if it's a legit option. The others haven't come right out and said it but I get the impression they feel the same way. Posters on this board and comments on social media have shown me there are way too many who agree with them. It's weird how obsessed people are with Hoiberg. At this point, there is no legitimate reason to want Prohm gone other than an unhealthy obsession with somebody because he grew up in Ames then played and coached at ISU. It's a great story and Fred brought the magic back but as the op said, this is Prohm's team and we're better off if you ask me.
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You’re friends are stupid. Do better. :)
I agree that some are obsessed with Hoiberg. It’s weird. He’s been gone for a long time.
 
madguy30 said:
There's a few posters that are remarkedly absent.

They will be back Tuesday if ISU gets beat.
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The Steve Buscemi character in Con Air could just as well be talking about those guys:

"He's a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts."
 
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BoxsterCy said:
The Steve Buscemi character in Con Air could just as well be talking about those guys:

"He's a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts."
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Or maybe, they're El Quapo. (Don't actually think this relates, but this was on earlier and this scene should be watched by all).

 
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We are not going to shoot 52% from 3 every game. That's where defense comes in. It can mitigate your cold streaks and it can create turnovers and transition points. Prohm knows that. Having 4 long-armed interchangeable defenders on the perimeter is nice. Having Solo, Lard, and now MJ defend the paint is also good. This team is really well constructed and trained. We have proven that we can lose any single player, and still be really good.
 
Completely agree that this is CSP's program, but you can't deny Fred left him in a good spot. He left him a team of All-Americans and extremely serviceable role players that were hungry. Who knows what things would look like if CSP had taken over the heaping pile of dog **** McDoormat left behind. Don't forget Fred changed the entirety of college basketball and this program may not be where we are today without him.
 
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ZJohnson said:
Completely agree that this is CSP's program, but you can't deny Fred left him in a good spot. He left him a team of All-Americans and extremely serviceable role players that were hungry. Who knows what things would look like if CSP had taken over the heaping pile of dog **** McDoormat left behind. Don't forget Fred changed the entirety of college basketball and this program may not be where we are today without him.
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Johnny pretty much did the same thing for Tim Floyd with Fred, Michalik, and Loren Meyer.

I appreciate Fred's contribution to the program as a player and a coach, especially at that moment in time.

But people who still routinely linger over those accomplishments are missing out on a program that has kept moving forward. Winning in the Big 12 has never been easy, and as you mentioned, continued success is not always guaranteed.
 
Die4Cy said:
Johnny pretty much did the same thing for Tim Floyd with Fred, Michalik, and Loren Meyer.

I appreciate Fred's contribution to the program as a player and a coach, especially at that moment in time.

But people who still routinely linger over those accomplishments are missing out on a program that has kept moving forward. Winning in the Big 12 has never been easy, and as you mentioned, continued success is not always guaranteed.
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Larry Eustachy and Marcus Fizer say hi.

ISU's been decent for over 30 years with a few bumps and with a solid situation will continue to do so.
 
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